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Belief in white Jesus linked to racism
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RE: Belief in white Jesus linked to racism
There's a lovely passage in the Phaedrus which addresses how people used myth in the old days.

Socrates and Phaedrus are walking along outside the walls of Athens. Phaedrus thinks they're at the spot where, according to legend, the wind god abducted a girl. He asked Socrates of he believes in the literal truth of such myths.

Quote:Phaedrus: Tell me, Socrates, isn’t this or hereabouts the place from where Boreas is said to have abducted Oreithuia from the Ilissus?

Socrates: Yes, that’s how the story goes, anyway.

Phaedrus: Well, wasn’t it from here? At any rate, the water has a pleasant, clean, clear appearance –– just right for girls to play beside.

Socrates: No, this isn’t the place. It’s about two or three stades* downstream, where one crosses to go towards Agra.* There’s an altar of Boreas somewhere there.

Phaedrus: I’ve not really noticed it. But tell me, Socrates, by Zeus:* do you think this story is true?

Socrates: It wouldn’t be odd for me to doubt it as the experts do. I might give a clever explanation of it, and say that a gust of wind from the north pushed her from the nearby rocks while she was playing with Pharmaceia, and although this caused her death she was said to have been abducted by Boreas––either from here or from the Areopad gus,* since there’s another version of the story, that she was abducted from there, not here. Basically, Phaedrus, although I find these kinds of interpretations fascinating, they are the work of someone who is too clever for his own good. He has to work hard and is rather unfortunate, if only because he next has to correct the way Centaurs look, and then the Chimaera, and then there pours down on him a horde of similar creatures, like the Gorgon and Pegasus and countless other extraordinary beasts with all kinds of monstrous natures.*† If anyone has doubts about these creatures and wants to use a rough-and-ready kind of ingenuity to force each of them to conform with probability, he’ll need a lot of spare time. As for me, I never have time to spend on these things, and there’s a good reason for this, my friend: I am still incapable of obeying the Delphic inscription and know- ing myself.* It strikes me as absurd to look into matters that have nothing to do with me as long as I’m still ignorant in this respect, so I ignore all these matters and go along with the traditional views about them. As I said just now, I investigate myself rather than these things, to see whether I am in fact a creature of more complexity and savagery than Typhon, or something tamer and more simple, with a naturally divine and non-Typhonic nature. But anyway, my friend, if I may interrupt our conversation, isn’t this the tree you were taking us to?

Socrates considers a euhemerist interpretation, but in the end says it doesn't matter. The importance of these stories is what we can learn from them about ourselves.

This is a basic hermeneutic among traditional Christians, as well. The importance is a spiritual, rather than a historical, meaning.
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Belief in white Jesus linked to racism - by Silver - March 12, 2021 at 12:09 am
RE: Belief in white Jesus linked to racism - by no one - March 12, 2021 at 1:49 am
RE: Belief in white Jesus linked to racism - by Ravenshire - March 12, 2021 at 11:28 pm
RE: Belief in white Jesus linked to racism - by Silver - March 12, 2021 at 5:49 am
RE: Belief in white Jesus linked to racism - by Silver - March 12, 2021 at 5:54 am
RE: Belief in white Jesus linked to racism - by brewer - March 12, 2021 at 9:05 am
RE: Belief in white Jesus linked to racism - by Belacqua - March 25, 2021 at 4:42 am
RE: Belief in white Jesus linked to racism - by Brian37 - March 12, 2021 at 9:58 am
RE: Belief in white Jesus linked to racism - by Belacqua - March 14, 2021 at 5:24 am
RE: Belief in white Jesus linked to racism - by Belacqua - March 19, 2021 at 3:19 am
RE: Belief in white Jesus linked to racism - by Angrboda - March 12, 2021 at 12:09 pm
RE: Belief in white Jesus linked to racism - by brewer - March 12, 2021 at 12:14 pm
RE: Belief in white Jesus linked to racism - by Seax - March 13, 2021 at 1:52 pm
RE: Belief in white Jesus linked to racism - by Rev. Rye - March 19, 2021 at 2:39 am
RE: Belief in white Jesus linked to racism - by Rev. Rye - March 19, 2021 at 4:53 pm
RE: Belief in white Jesus linked to racism - by Belacqua - March 19, 2021 at 7:29 pm
RE: Belief in white Jesus linked to racism - by Angrboda - March 19, 2021 at 9:13 pm
RE: Belief in white Jesus linked to racism - by Belacqua - March 25, 2021 at 9:00 am
RE: Belief in white Jesus linked to racism - by Belacqua - March 27, 2021 at 10:01 pm
RE: Belief in white Jesus linked to racism - by Belacqua - March 28, 2021 at 11:04 pm
RE: Belief in white Jesus linked to racism - by Belacqua - March 26, 2021 at 6:12 am
RE: Belief in white Jesus linked to racism - by Belacqua - March 27, 2021 at 5:37 am
RE: Belief in white Jesus linked to racism - by Bucky Ball - March 27, 2021 at 10:40 pm
RE: Belief in white Jesus linked to racism - by Ferrocyanide - December 31, 2021 at 10:20 pm
RE: Belief in white Jesus linked to racism - by Belacqua - March 27, 2021 at 8:46 pm
RE: Belief in white Jesus linked to racism - by Silver - March 26, 2021 at 2:07 am
RE: Belief in white Jesus linked to racism - by Silver - March 27, 2021 at 11:24 am
RE: Belief in white Jesus linked to racism - by Belacqua - March 27, 2021 at 5:43 pm
RE: Belief in white Jesus linked to racism - by Belacqua - March 27, 2021 at 10:23 pm
RE: Belief in white Jesus linked to racism - by Belacqua - March 27, 2021 at 11:06 pm
RE: Belief in white Jesus linked to racism - by Bucky Ball - March 29, 2021 at 12:25 am
RE: Belief in white Jesus linked to racism - by Angrboda - March 27, 2021 at 11:47 am
RE: Belief in white Jesus linked to racism - by Belacqua - March 29, 2021 at 1:00 am
RE: Belief in white Jesus linked to racism - by Belacqua - March 30, 2021 at 6:03 am
RE: Belief in white Jesus linked to racism - by Belacqua - March 30, 2021 at 6:35 pm
RE: Belief in white Jesus linked to racism - by Ferrocyanide - January 1, 2022 at 12:06 pm
RE: Belief in white Jesus linked to racism - by Ahriman - January 1, 2022 at 1:31 pm

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