How to beat a presupp at their own game

[Superjock]

Darth has never beaten a single atheist. His tactics are childish and dull.

From my perspective it just seems like he does because I don't know any better. In fact I just listened an hour ago to another debate between an atheist and a Christian and what it boils down to .... is that the atheist doesn't have any absolute foundation for the intelligibility of facts, which is the primary objection.

He was rightfully saying that he doesn't have ultimate or absolute knowledge about anything, nor does he need it - so naturally the Christian says that facts that don't have any ultimate context are arbitrary - you could be a brain in a vat or a solipsist and your worldview wouldn't be able to rule out that possibility so basically the debate/discussion was focusing on that part of the argument. They were saying the laws of physics could change, you don't know that they won't, you don't know anything ultimately, so "facts" are arbitrary.

The Christians were saying but they DO have ultimate context for facts that undergirds reality which is God - because the bible and God revealed it etc etc. He sustains reality. This part of the theist argument was not attacked - I think ground could have been made if he had tried to attack that line of reasoning - it just seemed like they were begging the question.

But usually in these debates, albeit against atheists who may not be prepared, it seems like they are being picked apart and the guy. I think I wouldn't have fared any better, and probably worse.