(April 22, 2021 at 5:21 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote:(April 22, 2021 at 5:16 am)Reforged Wrote: So say you, others would disagree. I am not here to debate for them, merely stating they would debate.
Also I think that a willingness to physically abuse a pregnant woman when you outnumber her six to one demonstrates at the very least a willingness to do very violent and unpleasant things.
Whether you like it or not that is a part of his history and would have been a factor in the cops minds. Dismiss that when debating someone who cares at your peril.
Floyd wasn't on trial, he died in the street an innocent man at the hands of a police officer while fully restrained. Chauvin was, for causing the death of a man through extreme recklessness while committing assault.
Personally, I think they could have got him for murder int he first but perhaps the prosecutor knows better, eh, and judging by some of the responses just on these boards....well. If there are people willing to accept that he did exactly what he was charged with and still believe that he was innocent of the charges, then there wouldn't be much point in going for a greater charge no matter what the evidence suggested.
I wasn't saying he was. I was saying his violent past would have contributed to the disproportionate response and that this should not be discounted.
All factors need to be considered when deciding the degree guilt. We can dislike the act, we can dislike the person but the reaction must be proportionate to the circumstances and what we know of both men.
They weren't initially going to press for second, I don't think they thought they could get it at first and given the wiggle room afforded to the defense by the circumstances I can't say I blame them.
Public opinion definitely played a role. The jury and witnesses were not sequestered, public officials were dishing out guilt like it was in fashion and the use of force experts old house was smeared in pigs blood and had a pigs head laid outside it.
Regardless of whether it was the right verdict or not this was a horrendously tainted trial. We can definitely expect a retrial at some point when things cool down. I imagine the defense probably knew that, infact the judge told him as much at one point.
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