Chauvin Murder Trial

[Irreligious Atheist]

That’s interesting. A majority of each group agreed with the verdict. It would be even more interesting to know what percentage of those who disagreed still thought he was guilty, but of a lesser charge.

Boru

I wonder overall,  how many of these who thought the verdict was wrong actually think Chavin did not kill a man in circumstances where had the man been white, the killing would have been intolerable, and how many thinks  chavin’s act met an unwritten necessity to kill black men from time to time to keep the black community cowered in order to establish or maintain a notional social order they think to be right.

Some probing questions I’ve asked of the not guilty partisan reveals a good percentage actually believe the latter.   When challenged, they do not focus on defending the proposition that what chavin did was illegal killing,  instead jump right to how affirmative actions in their opinion have already embedded too many unqualified blacks in places where they are regarded as unqualified or they do not belong, and how crime rates amongst the black community is high, etc

To them, whether chavin is guilty or not is irrelevant.   He should not be found guilty because that would lessen an appropriate sense of vulnerability to police that would keep blacks in their place.

What do you mean keep blacks cowered? Going by the statistics, they are actually the least afraid of police. https://www.wnyc.org/story/resisting-arr...ack-white/

That means a black defendant in a misdemeanor drug possession case is 85.4 % more likely to get charged with resisting arrest than a white defendant. (In New York City)

If you are truly afraid, you don't do the thing that's going to almost guarantee that the police use force against you. If you are afraid, you comply. The ones resisting are afraid of that jail cell, not the police.

You do know that it's not like all the legal experts agree that it should have been 2nd degree murder, right?

I saw room for doubt in the case. There's probably not a more famous lawyer than Mark Geragos and he shared that sentiment, even though the work he's doing now is about suing cops. The question is whether that doubt was reasonable. And you could actually argue that this position is the most pro-minority position you could have. Having such a high standard and an almost religious like belief in innocent until proven guilty beyond any reasonable doubt is a position that benefits minorites more than anyone else. Now, of course I've read youtube comments, and there are plenty of idiots on the right who are sure with no evidence, that he died of a drug overdose, and that's probably because they don't like him because he was a meth head pornstar who robbed people at gunpoint, but to be fair to them, I doubt they would be defending a white meth head pornstar who robbed people at gun point either.