(May 17, 2021 at 11:34 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote:(May 17, 2021 at 11:20 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: You show how naive you are by saying that all the evidence they have is a couple of blurry videos. 99 percent of the evidence that they have has not been released.
Yeah, I'm naive because I haven't considered something that hasn't been released.
The truth is that people who believe claims how pilots see alien spaceships every day are naive. If you believe it so much, then hire an airplane, go up there and get some real good photos of alien spaceships for a change. Maybe you can also make a 1st contact. That would definitely assure you a Nobel Prize and the rest of accolades.
(May 17, 2021 at 11:20 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: You're being intellectually dishonest by taking a couple of short clips and acting like that is everything there is, while you ignore all context surrounding those clips, and things like radar, etc.
Really, they have radar data for those triangle ufos?
Just the opposite, when you look at the cockpit data you can get a very mundane explanation.
Like take this two: left is the IR glare from a jet engine but at right is a "flying saucer".The difference in appearance none. The rotation comes from the gimbal system (hence the filename).
You're naive because you're acting like governments don't keep secrets or that there isn't a shitload of classified material that we haven't seen. Do you think Harry Reid is just lying out of his ass? Not sure exactly what you believe, but you are acting like the short clips that have been released are the only clips or data or evidence in existence. If you think you know it all based on .001 percent of the information that governments have, that's just not rational. Waiting for more information to come out and reserving judgment and sticking with "I don't know" is perfectly fine.
Those Mick West/ Thunderf00t debunking videos were bullshit. I will quote my post from a few pages back. Watch the part I mention at the timestamp given, and Mick West is the one debunked. Recreating something kind of similar and concluding that it's a bird or plane is bullshit.
Quote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aB8zcAttP1E&t=727s
Mick West is not really a good source for debunking UAP videos. Go to 2 hours and 30 minutes into the podcast above with Lex Fridman and David Fravor. Fravor tears West a new asshole and explains why Mick West is wrong and in Mick's analysis, Mick had no idea about the equipment or camera used, and made a bunch of false assumptions. Watch that part and tell me if you still think Mick was right. Not that Mick hasn't done some good work, but he's blown it big time when analyzing some of these UAP events, and his credibility has definitely taken a hit.
Where did I say they were alien spaceships? This is exciting stuff to think about whether it's aliens, alien drones, secret tech from earth, or just natural phenomena that we can't yet explain. You are the one being the conspiracy theorist if you think the establishment including the media and politicians and some big name scientists are all conspiring to make something out of nothing (not that some conspiracy theories aren't correct, of course). The establishment decides what the narrative is, and before it was always mockery, and now it's being taken seriously. Why is the establishment pushing the "it's to be taken seriously" narrative at this moment in time rather than continuing to mock? I would like to know that myself.
