(May 18, 2021 at 9:44 am)Fake Messiah Wrote:(May 18, 2021 at 8:33 am)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: You're naive because you're acting like governments don't keep secrets or that there isn't a shitload of classified material that we haven't seen.
Yeah, because governments have secrets alien spaceships are visiting us and Hitler is alive - oh wait, you never said that those were alien spaceships - so what the fuck are we having this conversation for? Are they alien ghosts?
(May 18, 2021 at 8:33 am)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: Do you think Harry Reid is just lying out of his ass?
Yeah, just like Marco Rubio.
(May 18, 2021 at 8:33 am)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: Waiting for more information to come out and reserving judgment and sticking with "I don't know" is perfectly fine.
Those Mick West/ Thunderf00t debunking videos were bullshit. I will quote my post from a few pages back. Watch the part I mention at the timestamp given, and Mick West is the one debunked. Recreating something kind of similar and concluding that it's a bird or plane is bullshit.
I gave you a video for what Gimbal most likely is, it's your bad that you are instead talking about Mick West and poisoning the well. I really don't care for that kind of BS conversations.
(May 18, 2021 at 8:33 am)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: Why is the establishment pushing the "it's to be taken seriously" narrative at this moment in time rather than continuing to mock?
Establishment? If you're talking about mainstream media then they've been talking about UFOs since forever, it's only the UFO people who are creating this "persecution narrative" that they are being hushed.
Also, who exactly from the Pentagon said that those b/w videos of blobs are unexplainable?
The video you posted was a recreation made by Mick West, was it not? Why wouldn't I bring him up when he's the one that did the recreation? Mick West didn't know anything about the camera that took the gimbal UAP video. He used a completely different, cheap gimbal camera to make his recreation compared to the millions of dollars of equipment that was used to take the original, and just because you can show a slight recreation of what the original video shows, that isn't enough to solve things and conclude that it was just a plane. And in your previous posts you didn't say you showed "what it most likely is". You said the UAP videos were debunked. I'd love for more concrete evidence to be released to the public, but I'm amazed we've even been allowed to see what they've given us. Hopefully more info keeps coming out as time goes on. 99 percent of this stuff will not be released for national security reasons. It makes perfect sense.
I don't blame you for not trusting politicians that talk about the UAP/USO subject. I'm usually the last one to trust any politicians word. Do you really think some of the most well known scientists who talk about these things are embarrassing themselves to the point where they are confusing birds and planes for possible secret tech or whatever else it could be that is far more advanced than what the US military has? I find that hard to believe, unless this is the biggest psychological operation of all time, where government, media, and scientists all conspire together to try to push this narrative, for whatever reason. Some conspiracy theorists online have claimed that governments will use a fake alien threat to merge the world together into a one world government. Other conspiracy theorists think that governments are going to conspire to try to pull off a false flag fake alien invasion on the world.
My question to you is, if you think this is all BS and UAP and USOs are all birds or planes, and this is all some giant conspiracy to fool the people, what do you think the end goal is by the powers that be?