Why God doesn't stop satan?

[The Grand Nudger]

Well, I think that way about gods, to an extent, sure.  If, for example, your barbaric god were real, I'd have no use for it, and still wouldn't be a muslim.

Thanks for being honest, at least, that you wouldn't accept a religion or an entity even if you were absolutely convinced it's real  -which, by the way, means that arguing with you about anything is irrelevant. I guess that's the real issue we should be discussing, instead of wasting time on abstract concepts. 

And they say I am a solipsist.

I'm already convinced that your religion is real.....you do exist, after all.  If you think that arguing your god into existence would make me or anyone else a muslim, well..you couldn't be more wrong about a fairly simple thing.  So yeah, that would be completely pointless.  I have no use for, no interest in, and nothing but disgust for your religion.  It's not an issue of whether or not your club exists, or even your clubs fairy president existing.  You are either right about a god existing and belong to a dumspter fire of a faith, or you are wrong about a god existing and still belong to a dumpster fire of a faith.

Hard solipsism isn't a problem for a hard solipsist who believes that there is, in fact, only one mind in all of creation - gods.  That's not a solution to the problem of hard solipsism, it's just being a hard solipsist.  I don't find myself wondering if the wachowskis wrote a documentary anymore than I think the flintstones was historical footage. 

I guess I shouldn't be surprised that a person who gets his facts from a collection of myths derives his notions about life from movies and cartoons.

Don't you get tired of wordplay? Instead of insulting my beliefs and dodging the question, you could've just acknowledged the superiority of theism with regards to this problem. We're not discussing the truth of my beliefs or of theism, So... save your breath, I guess.

What problem?  Again, how is hard solipsism a problem to a hard solipsist, and how does asserting it's truth solve whatever problem that is?  I don't personally have a hard solipsism problem, nor do I assert it's truth.  I think that there are other minds, minds apart from gods, even.   Do you?

Oh, I'm sorry, is everything not the mind or will of god?  What exists apart from it?  I'm not misrepresenting your position, you believe in a great many mutually exclusive things and this makes you uncomfortable.  Good.  Islam hasn;t turned your brain to complete mush yet, though your affliction does seem to have had some persistent effects already.

I don't ever recall using the term "mind of god" which doesn't exist in the Islamic view of God. So have fun anthropomorphising God. I am presenting the reasons why I think free will and foreknowledge are compatible and you're not addressing them, there is nothing else to say until you do.

You're not presenting any reason why they would be compatible, and to be fair..I don't expect you to come up with any, because they're mutually exclusive concepts.  You're babbling about force and imagining that other people..and not you (lols) are the solipsist in this exchange.

You keep talking about my worldview like I've ever shared it with you.  The Atheist View as though you were one and knew it.....but I only know what you think about this because you won't stop babbling about it, and you don't know very much about anyone else's position on anything.  You struggle with your own.

There is no fact about any human ability, in my opinion, that relies on a god in any way.  With or without a god, we either do or don't have the thing called free will.  It's a question about people, not gods.  You may as well claim that people couldn't have ears in a godless worldview..and as silly as that sounds...I bet it's something that you also believe.  We wouldn't be here to have ears if there were no god, after all?  Right?

Well, I know at least that you consider this world to be godless. If this is the case, then forcibly there is no free will, you cannot avoid this conclusion simply by saying "atheists don't believe in gods". If they don't, then they are forced towards this sad conclusion, no matter what they say.

It's true that this issue might appear to be irrelevant, but we're only discussing it because of its relation to OP's question. Theism permits free will, atheism doesn't. Case closed.

Correct, I don't think that there are any gods in this world.  I think that there are humans in this world, so, it seems to me the answer to the question of whether a human has some, any, or a particular ability - like free will, will ultimately refer back to something about..well, humans.  

Gods existing has literally nothing to say on the subject of whether people have free will.  Not believing in gods doesn't force any conclusion about human ability, and believing in gods doesn;t force people to believe in free will, for that matter, either. It's simply what you imagine you would believe if there were no gods.  It doesn't appear to be irrelevant, it is irrelevant.

I bet that if you asked, you'd find that happening alot.  That you believe I must think this or that thing on account of not believing in your god..and would routinely be wrong about that.  For you, god is an underlying premise of everything, and so it would seem to you that every belief would be effected by not believing in your god...but to me, no belief is effected by my not believing in your god.  You should have some experience with this as well, when you consider other peoples gods and your own beliefs.