RE: A really hard question on Satan and deception.
November 9, 2011 at 3:53 pm
(This post was last modified: November 9, 2011 at 3:59 pm by Godscreated.)
(November 9, 2011 at 12:36 am)Captain Scarlet Wrote:(November 9, 2011 at 12:01 am)Godschild Wrote: [snip]He allowed them to exercise their freewill. I think you have a misconception of freewill, it is only one of two choices God or no God, [snip]Despite the pure fantasy of angels etc. This is something I have never understood about xtian theology. If god exists, in the terms put forward by xtianity, how can freewill exist at all?:
1) you are only allowed to make free choices, ie they are not intrinsic to your existence and reality ie they are an illusion provided by a god
2) you can only make free choices from within the context imposed of a cartoon universe drawn by a god, ie reality as perceived through nature is not an absolute
3) you can invoke a god through prayer to get you out of trouble of your free choices. He may/may not answer.
4) He knows your free choices in advance and doesn't need to run the freewill experiment on earth
5) Worse still if you only choose to do what can be considered 'good' becuase of a fear of god, he'll know that too (know your motives aren't sincere). Thus your free choice was irrelevant.
Xtianity definitionally abolishes freewill as an illiusion.
Freewill is for man,we have no idea what each day may hold. God has restrained himself in certain areas so freewill to Him has been limited for reasons we can not always understand.
(November 9, 2011 at 8:12 am)Greatest I am Wrote: Godschild.
A quick question. In making a free choice between God and Satan, heaven and hell, is full disclosure of what the decision entails part of the decision making process. IOW, should all the consequences, good or evil be known?
Regards
DL
See you have found my problem that jumps up every once in a while.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.