(June 22, 2021 at 5:14 pm)Frank Apisa Wrote:(June 22, 2021 at 3:19 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Be happy to.
I’m using ‘know’ in the more pedestrian sense, in that I can’t reasonably doubt that gods don’t exist - the evidence is not there and the arguments are unconvincing. I find this very, very different from theists ‘knowing’ that gods exist, so they do so in spite of unconvincing arguments and paucity of evidence. Let’s try a non-theistic example of what I mean:
I know that the Earth isn’t flat. Not only is there no evidence to support the idea, but the arguments fabricated by Flat Earthers are so unconvincing as to be laughable. Be the Flatties, despite massive evidence and irrefutable arguments to the contrary, still insist that the rest of us have got it wrong.
Do I have an epistemological certitude that gods don’t exist? No. But I can’t doubt that they don’t.
Boru
Of course you can. All you have to do is to doubt it.
It seems you actually are saying that you do not KNOW (in a pedestrian sense or in a more rigorous, formal sense) if any gods exist or not. What problem do you have with leaving it at that?
Obviously there are things that we (you and I) do NOT know. Is it really that difficult to simply acknowledge that we do not?
Can you doubt that the Earth is a spheroid? Can you doubt that France exists? Of course you can’t, because the arguments and evidence for these are overwhelming.
Doubt is a very useful tool, but unrestrained skepticism is intellectually perverse.
Boru
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