(June 24, 2021 at 5:49 am)Frank Apisa Wrote: If you want to think you KNOW there are no gods...fine with me. I am acquainted with people who think they KNOW there is at least one god...and that is fine with me also.No problem man.
There was no "problem" when we began. I just wanted to find the answers to some questions...and I have.
Thank you for your help.
Quote:I live my life without a care about divine punishment, divine commands and divine intervention.You are, an agnostic atheist, as you describe yourself.
I do not "believe" any gods exist...just as I do not "believe" there are no gods.
AND I AM NOT AN ATHEIST.
Quote:I AM NOT AN ATHEIST.Not really a courtesy thing, you describe yourself as an agnostic atheist.
I understand some atheists want all agnostics to be considered atheists also, probably to increase the intelligence of the atheistic gene pool, but you will have to do without me.
I AM NOT AN ATHEIST.
If you say you are an atheist...I accept that you are an atheist. Have the courtesy to accept that I am not an atheist.
Quote:I am not playing word games. I AM saying that I do not know if gods exist or not.Yeah, that's what most atheists say.
Quote:I know of many theists who are certain they KNOW that at least one god exists...or KNOW that it is more likely that at least one god exists than that no gods exist.Now you're just fibbing, I know you've seen it at least once.
I know of many atheists who are certain they KNOW that no gods exist...or KNOW that it is more likely that no gods exist than that at least one does.
I think they are all full of soup.
I have never seen any theist who thinks that way...or atheist who thinks that way...come up with any logic or science that rationalizes those guesses.
Quote:Theists don't particularly like it when you show them the fault in their "logic."That's an interesting proposition, is it just a guess or an opinion or what have you?
Atheists seem to loathe it when you show them the fault in theirs.
I'm hoping we can all discuss this reasonably...but as you have noted, you are not a fan...and you always have "OUT YOU GO" at your disposal if the heat gets too intense.
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