RE: Why God doesn't stop satan?
June 25, 2021 at 5:34 pm
(This post was last modified: June 25, 2021 at 5:37 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(June 25, 2021 at 5:31 pm)Klorophyll Wrote:I don't feel the need to repeat a simple explanation for how free will and foreknowledge are, by definition, mutually exclusive.(June 25, 2021 at 5:21 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: This is something that I've honestly never understood about abrahamic faith. A person who strongly believes that we have a fate, is equally compelled to argue for our free will.
Will call other fatalists fatalists as though it were an insult rather than a shared position of the nature of reality.
WTF is that....?
By the by.... we all fail by your own absurd criteria above - we never once..in our lives, choose. You've asserted that god writes our will to what we would want. Wrong..and wrong by your own description. Your faith is weak. Have you ever considered that satan may have you? That any and every verse from a magic book you might choose to quote...referred to you...and not to me?
That it was a message, for you...and not for anyone else?
I see you didn't try to refute the argument above. So my argument is correct so far and a foreknower can coexist with free will.
Again : we choose what the foreknower knows. not really that hard for me... nor is it equivalent to fatalism
If you believe in the author of creation, and you've said that you do - you believe in fate. You may have negative ideations about "fatalists" - as your shaman tells you they are, but by expressing such a position you have identified yourself as a fatalist no matter how much you think fatalist heretics deserve the sword.
Know thyself.
In truth, whether we have free will or there is some author or knower of creation is unimportant to me. Neither state of affairs has anything to say about why I don't bend the knee to your trashgod.
If we don't have free will...I just can't worship trashgod, because I'm not enough of a garbage person to do so.
If we do have free will, and even if I were a garbage person, I still have the constitutional volition to say no to at least one bad thing.
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