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The Right's true opposition to CRT?
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RE: The Right's true opposition to CRT?
(August 1, 2021 at 8:22 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: Well, I certainly do not speak all socially conservative folks, I do have my own reasons for explicitly opposing CRT. Not that I am particularly committed to my position…meaning I am open to revising my understanding after hearing alternative perspectives.

The first reason, which is not so much a reason as a visceral reaction to adults ruining the innocence of children. IMHO it the obligation of adults to preserve that innocence through childhood and not selfishly inject adult political concerns about race, class, sexuality so inappropriately early into the minds of the young.

The second is that I feel the same way about CRT as I do about Young Earth Creationism (YEC). Both are intellectual-sounding justifications for a cherished belief systems. CRT proponents are even worse because they invent obfuscating jargon and like Humpty-Dumpty multiply the meanings of words to signify anything they want.

Thirdly, I truly believe that race is an accidental feature of person and not essential to their worth as a human being. As far as I can tell, CRT proponents teach otherwise and I consider such teachings, even if only tacitly promoted, racist and corrosive to a civil society. IMO, the last thing this country needs is more consciousness of race based on pseudo-scientific notions from the 19th century.

2 cents.

1 and 2) How exactly would you describe CRT?
3) This is true and most proponents of CRT will probably acknowledge this. Race is essentially a fiction created in the 17th century to justify the enslavement of people from another continent onto yet another continent. Unfortunately, it's a fiction that society made so important that well over a century after its initial purpose became moot, and even half a century after society seemed to decide that openly judging people on the basis of their skin was a bad thing, people with darker skin STILL have a shitton of baggage that makes life harder for them, more than even the average white person. And there's three ways to approach this fact: A) Denial, which helps nobody, B) Saying that these issues are solely People of Colour's own fault, and C) To acknowledge that these disadvantages are a result of historical oppression that hasn't been properly rectified.

Here's a video that can help explain it:



The bit about black drowning rates is particularly enlightening. You know the stereotype about how black people supposedly can't swim? There's some truth in it, and it's depressing, and not related to anything inherent in people of recent African descent. For a long time, swimming pools were very much "whites-only." If black people got really assertive about wanting to use the pool (particularly in places where segregation wasn't necessarily the law of the land), the owners would close the pool down due to some bullshit malfunction or even drain the damn thing. And while you could argue that this doesn't apply for natural bodies of water, there's still the matter of allowing them access. A public beach may still have found ways to gatekeep. Sure, shit like this no longer flies, and any business who tried that would be rightly roasted to Hell and back, but, well, as Margaret Atwood said: "All it takes... is the elimination of one generation. One generation of anything. Beetles, trees, microbes, scientists, speakers of French, whatever. Break the link in time between one generation and the next, and it’s game over forever.” And, while the original quote was about the destruction of civilization, it's also pretty apt for the ability to swim. You know the odds that a child will learn how to swim if their parent doesn't know? 13%. That's about 1 in 8. And, once you apply it to an entire population, it makes sense that this stereotype would end up prevailing.

(August 1, 2021 at 8:22 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote:
(August 1, 2021 at 7:02 pm)Mermaid Wrote: Listen to black people. Really really listen to them. Believe what they say.
That is racist statement. It assumes that all black people must have the same opinions. They do not.

True, but once you listen to enough of them, you do start to see patterns emerge. Ones that likely contradict what you were brought up to believe.
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The Right's true opposition to CRT? - by Jehanne - July 31, 2021 at 12:27 pm
RE: The Right's true opposition to CRT? - by Mermaid - July 31, 2021 at 6:58 pm
RE: The Right's true opposition to CRT? - by onlinebiker - August 1, 2021 at 10:45 am
RE: The Right's true opposition to CRT? - by Mermaid - August 1, 2021 at 12:48 pm
RE: The Right's true opposition to CRT? - by onlinebiker - August 1, 2021 at 2:18 pm
RE: The Right's true opposition to CRT? - by Angrboda - August 1, 2021 at 3:00 pm
RE: The Right's true opposition to CRT? - by Mermaid - August 1, 2021 at 3:30 pm
RE: The Right's true opposition to CRT? - by onlinebiker - August 1, 2021 at 4:58 pm
RE: The Right's true opposition to CRT? - by Mermaid - August 1, 2021 at 7:02 pm
RE: The Right's true opposition to CRT? - by Mermaid - August 1, 2021 at 7:51 pm
RE: The Right's true opposition to CRT? - by Jehanne - July 31, 2021 at 5:26 pm
RE: The Right's true opposition to CRT? - by Rev. Rye - July 31, 2021 at 5:42 pm
RE: The Right's true opposition to CRT? - by no one - July 31, 2021 at 8:05 pm
RE: The Right's true opposition to CRT? - by Rev. Rye - July 31, 2021 at 8:15 pm
RE: The Right's true opposition to CRT? - by no one - August 1, 2021 at 9:51 am
RE: The Right's true opposition to CRT? - by Angrboda - August 1, 2021 at 10:01 am
RE: The Right's true opposition to CRT? - by Angrboda - August 1, 2021 at 12:57 pm
RE: The Right's true opposition to CRT? - by Rev. Rye - August 1, 2021 at 1:24 pm
RE: The Right's true opposition to CRT? - by Rev. Rye - August 1, 2021 at 4:01 pm
RE: The Right's true opposition to CRT? - by Rev. Rye - August 1, 2021 at 5:21 pm
RE: The Right's true opposition to CRT? - by Angrboda - August 1, 2021 at 7:42 pm
RE: The Right's true opposition to CRT? - by Spongebob - August 2, 2021 at 11:49 am
RE: The Right's true opposition to CRT? - by Rev. Rye - August 1, 2021 at 8:51 pm
RE: The Right's true opposition to CRT? - by Mermaid - August 2, 2021 at 12:54 pm
RE: The Right's true opposition to CRT? - by Rev. Rye - August 2, 2021 at 5:19 pm
RE: The Right's true opposition to CRT? - by Silver - August 2, 2021 at 10:09 pm
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