The problem of the soul

[Spongebob]

Seen this movie many times, though it was usually a Christian nutjob, not a Muslim.  Same dish, different flavor.  Winter, you are debating (arguing) with a bunch of science-loving heathens.  If you take the position that science is wrong about some very fundamental things, or that there is some sort of new science, or really anything not generally accepted as scientific consensus, then you are not going to be taken seriously.  It's a non-starter.  Just as if one of us went on an Islam forum and started arguing about some aspect of Islam while being ignorant of the Quran or some other aspect of the religion.  You can argue that the soul exists all day, but the moment you say something nutty like plasma is not matter, then you have lost the crowd.

I think there's more actual valid debate to be had in grand nudger's assertion.  Why can't god be made of matter?  Anyone here read the SF novel Calculating God, by Robert Sawyer.  Not the best novel but a decent read with a decent premise, that god is a matter-based entity that survives the collapse of the universe and has a hand in creating the next one.