RE: The problem of the soul
August 8, 2021 at 11:30 am
(This post was last modified: August 8, 2021 at 11:31 am by Spongebob.)
@WinterHold said:
But you are simply wrong about this. We have established that it is consensus science that plasma is matter. That case is closed. Any arguments to the contrary are outside of science.
Clearly you didn't read what I posted earlier about neon lights. Neon lights are an example of plasma. Plasma is just heated gas, which forms ions. Ions are not something other than matter or outside our understanding; they are just atoms with a number of electrons stripped away or added on; nothing more. You can have ions in liquid state as well. High school chemistry students understand this stuff.
In a neon light, you flip a switch, energy is added in the form of electricity and plasma is formed from the gas inside the tubes. You can leave it on for years if you like; nothing transitional about it. Turn off the switch, the energy goes away and the gas returns to its more stable state. There is no "after turning to plasma". There's nothing fantastic about it; it's pretty boring physics, actually. There's way more astonishing physics out there to ponder; stuff we can barely understand.
I believe what you may be thinking about it what happens to matter (atoms) if they are torn apart, if the atom itself is broken into its constituent parts. Well, there's a simple answer to that one as well:
Quote:Essentially that's what I meant by "transitional" state: Plasma is a temporary state that superheated matter goes through: that's not "matter" -even if science said so today- but rather a "transitional state into something we didn't yet discover".
The question I would ask myself is this: what happens to matter after turning to plasma? what's the next state?
But you are simply wrong about this. We have established that it is consensus science that plasma is matter. That case is closed. Any arguments to the contrary are outside of science.
Clearly you didn't read what I posted earlier about neon lights. Neon lights are an example of plasma. Plasma is just heated gas, which forms ions. Ions are not something other than matter or outside our understanding; they are just atoms with a number of electrons stripped away or added on; nothing more. You can have ions in liquid state as well. High school chemistry students understand this stuff.
In a neon light, you flip a switch, energy is added in the form of electricity and plasma is formed from the gas inside the tubes. You can leave it on for years if you like; nothing transitional about it. Turn off the switch, the energy goes away and the gas returns to its more stable state. There is no "after turning to plasma". There's nothing fantastic about it; it's pretty boring physics, actually. There's way more astonishing physics out there to ponder; stuff we can barely understand.
I believe what you may be thinking about it what happens to matter (atoms) if they are torn apart, if the atom itself is broken into its constituent parts. Well, there's a simple answer to that one as well:
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~Julius Sumner Miller