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The problem of the soul
RE: The problem of the soul
(August 8, 2021 at 11:30 am)Spongebob Wrote: @WinterHold said:

Quote:Essentially that's what I meant by "transitional" state: Plasma is a temporary state that superheated matter goes through: that's not "matter" -even if science said so today- but rather a "transitional state into something we didn't yet discover".

The question I would ask myself is this: what happens to matter after turning to plasma? what's the next state?

But you are simply wrong about this.  We have established that it is consensus science that plasma is matter.  That case is closed.  Any arguments to the contrary are outside of science.

Clearly you didn't read what I posted earlier about neon lights.  Neon lights are an example of plasma.  Plasma is just heated gas, which forms ions.  Ions are not something other than matter or outside our understanding; they are just atoms with a number of electrons stripped away or added on; nothing more.  You can have ions in liquid state as well.  High school chemistry students understand this stuff.

In a neon light, you flip a switch, energy is added in the form of electricity and plasma is formed from the gas inside the tubes.  You can leave it on for years if you like; nothing transitional about it.  Turn off the switch, the energy goes away and the gas returns to its more stable state.  There is no "after turning to plasma".  There's nothing fantastic about it; it's pretty boring physics, actually.  There's way more astonishing physics out there to ponder; stuff we can barely understand.

I believe what you may be thinking about it what happens to matter (atoms) if they are torn apart, if the atom itself is broken into its constituent parts.  Well, there's a simple answer to that one as well:

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I did read your posts but obviously you didn't get my meaning: the "transitional" state I'm speaking about is anything "less powerful than the next state"; meaning is:

1-solid is the current state, you convert to "liquid" via heat.
2-liquid is the current state, you convert to "gas" via heat
3-gas is the current state, you convert to "plasma" via heat


And here is your last comment:

4-Plasma is the current state, you convert to (......) via (.....)??? 

You brought an example on the exploding of atoms via heat which results in "nuclear explosion".

But I googled the next phrase:

what stronger than nuclear fusion

Now we're talking :Big Grin this is exactly what I want so thank you for opening the thought for me.

Turns out the answer is:


Quote:“Quark Fusion” Produces Eight Times More Energy Than Nuclear Fusion

 https://futurism.com/quark-fusion-produc...ear-fusion

My theory is that the soul cannot be found exactly because so many facts are still "theoretical" like Quark fusion. But I think the electricity in the brain might be the soul..

Think

(August 8, 2021 at 12:20 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: @WinterHold
What do you think?  Can god be made of stuff?  If so, what sort of stuff..if not, why not?

No, according to the Quran he is the most unique thing; the famous verses describe what he is:


Quote:Sura 6,The Quran:
https://quran.ksu.edu.sa/index.php?l=en#...rans=en_sh

( 102 )   That is Allah, your Lord; there is no deity except Him, the Creator of all things, so worship Him. And He is Disposer of all things.
( 103 )   Vision perceives Him not, but He perceives [all] vision; and He is the Subtle, the Acquainted.


Quote:Sura 112, The Quran:
https://quran.ksu.edu.sa/index.php?l=en#...rans=en_sh

( 1 )   Say, "He is Allah, [who is] One,
( 2 )   Allah, the Eternal Refuge.
( 3 )   He neither begets nor is born,
( 4 )   Nor is there to Him any equivalent."

He is totally unique, our eyes cant even see him in this life, when I picture God I just picture a blank void; actually we were taught that from a very young age by our parents as Muslims; Anthropomorphism is despised by Islam.
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The problem of the soul - by zwanzig - July 31, 2021 at 7:51 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by Silver - July 31, 2021 at 7:56 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by Spongebob - July 31, 2021 at 9:43 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by no one - July 31, 2021 at 7:56 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by zwanzig - July 31, 2021 at 8:59 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by no one - July 31, 2021 at 9:36 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by no one - July 31, 2021 at 9:59 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by brewer - July 31, 2021 at 10:04 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by Fake Messiah - July 31, 2021 at 10:10 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by Fireball - August 4, 2021 at 10:35 pm
RE: The problem of the soul - by brewer - August 5, 2021 at 5:50 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 5, 2021 at 5:59 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by Angrboda - July 31, 2021 at 10:13 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by HappySkeptic - July 31, 2021 at 2:19 pm
RE: The problem of the soul - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - July 31, 2021 at 3:44 pm
RE: The problem of the soul - by WinterHold - July 31, 2021 at 4:07 pm
RE: The problem of the soul - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - July 31, 2021 at 4:33 pm
RE: The problem of the soul - by WinterHold - July 31, 2021 at 5:00 pm
RE: The problem of the soul - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - July 31, 2021 at 5:26 pm
RE: The problem of the soul - by WinterHold - July 31, 2021 at 8:52 pm
RE: The problem of the soul - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 1, 2021 at 4:04 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by Astreja - August 2, 2021 at 12:54 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by Spongebob - August 2, 2021 at 11:05 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by WinterHold - August 2, 2021 at 3:11 pm
RE: The problem of the soul - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 2, 2021 at 3:29 pm
RE: The problem of the soul - by WinterHold - August 2, 2021 at 3:43 pm
RE: The problem of the soul - by Astreja - August 2, 2021 at 4:34 pm
RE: The problem of the soul - by WinterHold - August 4, 2021 at 9:52 pm
RE: The problem of the soul - by Angrboda - August 5, 2021 at 2:50 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by WinterHold - August 5, 2021 at 5:04 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 5, 2021 at 5:13 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 2, 2021 at 4:34 pm
RE: The problem of the soul - by vulcanlogician - August 2, 2021 at 4:55 pm
RE: The problem of the soul - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 2, 2021 at 5:00 pm
RE: The problem of the soul - by Pat Mustard - August 7, 2021 at 4:00 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by WinterHold - August 7, 2021 at 5:49 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 7, 2021 at 5:52 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by WinterHold - August 7, 2021 at 5:58 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by Pat Mustard - August 8, 2021 at 4:05 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by WinterHold - August 8, 2021 at 8:49 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by Pat Mustard - August 8, 2021 at 9:57 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by WinterHold - August 8, 2021 at 10:13 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by vulcanlogician - July 31, 2021 at 4:11 pm
RE: The problem of the soul - by AniKoferBo - July 31, 2021 at 4:36 pm
RE: The problem of the soul - by onlinebiker - August 2, 2021 at 9:13 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by Angrboda - August 5, 2021 at 10:18 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 5, 2021 at 10:51 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by WinterHold - August 5, 2021 at 4:33 pm
RE: The problem of the soul - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 5, 2021 at 7:13 pm
RE: The problem of the soul - by WinterHold - August 6, 2021 at 4:48 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 6, 2021 at 4:54 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by Angrboda - August 6, 2021 at 10:41 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by WinterHold - August 6, 2021 at 10:45 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by Angrboda - August 6, 2021 at 10:52 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by vulcanlogician - August 5, 2021 at 11:52 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by Neo-Scholastic - August 5, 2021 at 12:30 pm
RE: The problem of the soul - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 5, 2021 at 12:37 pm
RE: The problem of the soul - by Astreja - August 5, 2021 at 3:14 pm
RE: The problem of the soul - by Spongebob - August 5, 2021 at 1:12 pm
RE: The problem of the soul - by vulcanlogician - August 6, 2021 at 5:08 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 6, 2021 at 5:18 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by vulcanlogician - August 6, 2021 at 6:25 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 6, 2021 at 7:01 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by Neo-Scholastic - August 6, 2021 at 7:58 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by vulcanlogician - August 6, 2021 at 8:23 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by HappySkeptic - August 6, 2021 at 9:47 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by Neo-Scholastic - August 6, 2021 at 11:53 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by vulcanlogician - August 6, 2021 at 12:44 pm
RE: The problem of the soul - by HappySkeptic - August 6, 2021 at 1:33 pm
RE: The problem of the soul - by vulcanlogician - August 6, 2021 at 7:13 pm
RE: The problem of the soul - by WinterHold - August 6, 2021 at 10:30 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by Spongebob - August 6, 2021 at 10:50 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 6, 2021 at 12:09 pm
RE: The problem of the soul - by WinterHold - August 6, 2021 at 1:43 pm
RE: The problem of the soul - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 6, 2021 at 2:20 pm
RE: The problem of the soul - by WinterHold - August 6, 2021 at 3:34 pm
RE: The problem of the soul - by Angrboda - August 6, 2021 at 4:38 pm
RE: The problem of the soul - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 6, 2021 at 4:39 pm
RE: The problem of the soul - by WinterHold - August 7, 2021 at 12:24 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 7, 2021 at 5:48 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by Spongebob - August 6, 2021 at 5:29 pm
RE: The problem of the soul - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 6, 2021 at 6:01 pm
RE: The problem of the soul - by zwanzig - August 6, 2021 at 10:40 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by Spongebob - August 6, 2021 at 11:09 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by Neo-Scholastic - August 6, 2021 at 2:29 pm
RE: The problem of the soul - by Spongebob - August 6, 2021 at 5:12 pm
RE: The problem of the soul - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 6, 2021 at 5:13 pm
RE: The problem of the soul - by LadyForCamus - August 6, 2021 at 9:15 pm
RE: The problem of the soul - by vulcanlogician - August 6, 2021 at 10:24 pm
RE: The problem of the soul - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 7, 2021 at 6:03 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by WinterHold - August 7, 2021 at 6:48 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 7, 2021 at 7:03 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by WinterHold - August 7, 2021 at 8:08 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by Fake Messiah - August 7, 2021 at 9:55 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 7, 2021 at 11:45 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by LadyForCamus - August 7, 2021 at 12:00 pm
RE: The problem of the soul - by The Grand Nudger - August 8, 2021 at 4:13 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 8, 2021 at 4:22 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by The Grand Nudger - August 8, 2021 at 4:29 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by Spongebob - August 8, 2021 at 8:50 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by Angrboda - August 8, 2021 at 10:31 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by Spongebob - August 8, 2021 at 11:30 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by WinterHold - August 8, 2021 at 4:26 pm
RE: The problem of the soul - by Spongebob - August 8, 2021 at 6:54 pm
RE: The problem of the soul - by The Grand Nudger - August 8, 2021 at 12:20 pm
RE: The problem of the soul - by Angrboda - August 8, 2021 at 12:29 pm
RE: The problem of the soul - by Neo-Scholastic - August 9, 2021 at 8:18 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by Angrboda - August 9, 2021 at 11:15 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by The Grand Nudger - August 8, 2021 at 7:06 pm
RE: The problem of the soul - by Ahriman - August 15, 2021 at 5:19 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 15, 2021 at 5:21 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by Ahriman - August 15, 2021 at 5:26 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 15, 2021 at 5:28 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by Ahriman - August 15, 2021 at 5:38 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 15, 2021 at 5:41 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by Ahriman - August 15, 2021 at 5:45 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 15, 2021 at 5:52 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by Ahriman - August 15, 2021 at 5:58 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 15, 2021 at 6:23 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by Ahriman - August 15, 2021 at 7:00 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by Nay_Sayer - August 15, 2021 at 7:14 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by Ahriman - August 15, 2021 at 7:22 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by Nay_Sayer - August 15, 2021 at 7:23 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by zwanzig - August 15, 2021 at 7:15 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by Nay_Sayer - August 15, 2021 at 7:20 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by Ahriman - August 15, 2021 at 7:23 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 15, 2021 at 7:45 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by Nay_Sayer - August 15, 2021 at 7:47 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by Ahriman - August 15, 2021 at 7:50 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by Nay_Sayer - August 15, 2021 at 7:30 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by Ahriman - August 15, 2021 at 7:39 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by Silver - August 15, 2021 at 7:48 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by zwanzig - August 15, 2021 at 10:21 am
RE: The problem of the soul - by Nay_Sayer - August 15, 2021 at 12:26 pm
RE: The problem of the soul - by Ahriman - August 15, 2021 at 1:03 pm
RE: The problem of the soul - by Abaddon_ire - August 15, 2021 at 1:07 pm
RE: The problem of the soul - by Ahriman - August 15, 2021 at 1:12 pm
RE: The problem of the soul - by Abaddon_ire - August 15, 2021 at 1:38 pm
RE: The problem of the soul - by Ahriman - August 15, 2021 at 1:46 pm
RE: The problem of the soul - by Abaddon_ire - August 15, 2021 at 4:45 pm
RE: The problem of the soul - by Nay_Sayer - August 15, 2021 at 4:21 pm
RE: The problem of the soul - by Ahriman - August 15, 2021 at 4:24 pm
RE: The problem of the soul - by Angrboda - August 15, 2021 at 1:15 pm

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