(November 11, 2011 at 1:26 am)Godschild Wrote:(November 10, 2011 at 10:06 pm)IATIA Wrote:(November 8, 2011 at 10:39 am)Godschild Wrote: Here's a thought to ponder, when a smoker goes to a doctor and the doctor says that if you continue to smoke it will kill you, is that a threat from the doctor or is it concern for the well being of his patient?
Did the doctor put a pack of smokes on the coffee table and say "Don't smoke those."?
That's about, no is ridiculous.
Huh? That made no sense. As far as "ridiculous", that is no more ridiculous than god, knowing what will happen, putting the tree in the garden.
(November 11, 2011 at 1:26 am)Godschild Wrote:(November 10, 2011 at 6:58 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote:(November 9, 2011 at 12:01 am)Godschild Wrote:(November 8, 2011 at 3:22 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: And if God is taking advice: it's a mistake to allow free-willed beings into heaven. They will mess it up. You couldn't even keep more than 2/3 of the angels in line and you're going to allow humans in? Save yourself the headache, but be nice: send 'em to a better place, but out of your hair.
God did not try to keep 1/3 of the angels in check, He allowed them to exercise their freewill. I think you have a misconception of freewill, it is only one of two choices God or no God, the rest of ones life goes on from there in a relationship with God or no relationship with Him. The decision is ours we were created to choose, so were the angels.
You kind of missed the point, man. If people can't choose not to be in a relationship with God in heaven, they don't have freewill. If they do have freewill, they can, like 1/3 of the angels, still forfeit heaven after they've gotten there...and we're no angels.
Sorry I did misread it.
What happens if we decide, after getting to heaven, to exercise our free will and defy god's rules. Where do we end up then?
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
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-- Homer Simpson
God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion.
-- Superintendent Chalmers
Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things.
-- Ned Flanders
Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral.
-- The Rev Lovejoy
