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[The Grand Nudger]

No, besides gods, Buddhists and Hindus and objective morality, what other examples of transcendant values are you referring to that aren't a part of one of these religions.

Really, any of them - I already mentioned our civil religions, vulcan offered beauty, the list could go on and on with the things people have pointed to and called transcendent value - we could even discuss the notion of transcendence itself.  

I'm sure that plenty of transcendent values are part of plenty of religions, entirely sure - I just don't see any of them as the exclusive property of those religions with gods, or buddhism, or hinduism.  I don't see why you would need a god for a civil religion or beauty, or to believe in transcendence at all, and, obviously - I don't know why people would say that or to what they mean to refer. It seems manifestly false by simple reference to the transcendent things people who don't believe in gods or any eastern religion do absolutely believe in, right down to notions of love and family.

If it's more that, yes, people believe in those things, but outside of religions with gods, buddhism, hinduism..you don't think it's well explained or could be - well, gods and superstitions probably don't amount to that good explanation either. On some level, it may be that religions posit these things because we apprehend them, and you don't have to be religious, let alone a believer in a god, to apprehend a thing -rightly or wrongly.

I know I've very recently made these exact comments, but when it comes to value, I don't think that theism provides any specific or exclusive value other than it's asserted god-value. Transcendent values, on the other hand, are there for anyone to hold (or not) regardless of whether they believe in gods.