RE: Atheism and the existence of peanut butter
September 14, 2021 at 12:28 am
(This post was last modified: September 14, 2021 at 12:31 am by LadyForCamus.)
(September 14, 2021 at 12:01 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote:(September 13, 2021 at 10:33 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: In order to sidestep the obvious problem of not having any evidence, theists must necessarily place god “outside” the realm of the material world. But this move is no less problematic, because theists need their god to have the very specific characteristics and attributes of a person who does, in fact, exist in the material world. God must be able to do things. He must be able to think, feel and behave; plan, design, and create; make choices, communicate, and intervene - in short, exist - in an identical fashion to the way a human being exists within the material world. Otherwise, they’re only arguing for deism at most. They want to allow their god to reap all the benefits of a material existence without being held to any of the natural consequences of god actually existing, i.e. any evidence of his existence whatsoever.
Not exactly. An interventionist god only requires a physical universe that is not fully deterministic or causally closed.
Along with some will or desire to intervene and interact, otherwise it either wouldn’t intervene in the first place, or its intervention would be completely arbitrary. No?
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
Wiser words were never spoken.
Wiser words were never spoken.