(September 28, 2021 at 5:19 pm)Secular Elf Wrote:Oh, I know what Gog and Magog are. It's the rest of his winter's babble I was questioning.(September 27, 2021 at 7:28 pm)Helios Wrote: Are you denying the historical fact that the Islamic world and the Vikings traded? Are denying the historical fact that the Vikings fought as mercenaries for other powers? If so your ignorance knows no bounds.
WTF?
Gog and Magog is a biblical reference to the sons of Japheth and grandsons of Noah. Evangelical Christians, Seventh Day Adventists, especially The Worldwide Church of God led by Herbert W. Armstrong and his son Ted Armstrong claim the Russians are descendants of Gog and Magog. Judaeo-Christian Mythology makes for terrible history and is complete bullshit. At best Gog and Magog could be safely said to be the ancient Jews name for the Scythian tribes of the southern Russian steppes, no doubt the Jews learned about them from the Persians, who sometimes had to fend off raids and attacks from the Scythians.

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