Religion vs Atheism! Bwahahahahahahahah

[arewethereyet]

I'm trying to read OP as charitibly as I can. What does the poll question actually mean?

I think OP is pushing a familiar notion. That the idea of atheism is somehow promoted by science. That scientists intentionally take God out of their assessment of nature. See the quote below:

I LOVE science; I just hate how they whisk away a Creator from their findings.
As if they are gonna chooses of the the world's many Gods!

I think the "many gods" sentence fragment is trying to say we atheists "worship" things like money and sex, etc. It's in line with JW's contempt for "worldliness." As is OP's notions of "inside JW" and "outside JW." His cult has a serious us/them or inside/outside mentality going. Hence "inside science/outside science" actually makes sense to OP given the nomenclature of JWs.

But it makes no sense to us.

If OP is indeed a young person, we might consider being cordial to him. After all, somebody is feeding him bad ideas. Rather than seeing him as just another internet asshole, we could view him as somebody being manipulated by one or more members of the JW religion. They DO prey on people.

Will being cordial actually help us "reach" MadJW so that we can have an honest conversation with him? Probably not. But confirmation bias is a serious risk for MadJW. In a way, his primary aim for coming here was to confirm his biases. He also came to say, he likes science "except the parts that try to "whisk away a Creator." It's uncertain whether we can explain to OP that science is neutral on the existence of a Creator, that science is all about evidence, and the evidence leads many to conclude that life evolved. Even IF it was all the doing of a creator 6,000 years ago, God made it look like evolution happened. That's why many of us reach the conclusions that we do.

But I don't see any way that discussion could have been had with OP. Shame.

I appreciate that you wanted to make an effort with MadJW. However, as I pointed out, JWs aren't supposed to interact with worldly people any more than necessary. And here he is on an atheist forum...he didn't fall in here accidentally. He sought us out. The door-knockers come around to spread the word as they see it...acting like a jerk on an Internet forum isn't the same thing.