(October 6, 2021 at 3:36 pm)Angrboda Wrote:(October 6, 2021 at 3:28 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: So what? So lets say Dawkins does not argue against the philosophical arguments very well. There are many other atheist scholars that do argue against them, and provide very powerful rebuttals. Just because atheist A is week on one subject/argument, does not mean that atheism itself has been defeated on that subject.
And also, just because you think the "who created god?" is a BS question, does not mean it is. All we ever hear from theists in response to this question is, yet another unsupported assertion.
The parallels between something like the Hawking-Hartle proposal are startling. A universe, that isn't past eternal, yet was not created. Theists screech like banshees to be offered that as a solution to the universe, but they don't bat an eye when they offer up basically the same thing for their god.
What?!
Theists being guilty of special pleading?!
Tell me it ain't so...
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
