(October 17, 2021 at 10:50 am)vulcanlogician Wrote: I liked Bel's analysis above. I think Ferro and Bel might be talking past each other. Like... WAY past each other.It is possible that I did not fully understand his points however ....
You need to carefully read his sentences. Here are some samples:
Only the most naive Christians see God as anthropomorphic. God is the Ground of Being, and the First Cause, and has no human-like body.
^^^^^Probably the jewish god is not going to change 1 and 2 but for number 3, that is something changeable since he is a shapeshifter.
Also, don’t claim that a person is naive.
I would change that sentence to:
Some Christians see the jewish god as anthropomorphic. The jewish god is the Ground of Being, and the First Cause, all christians agree on that (except for some mormons).
It is possible that the jewish god has a human-like body right now and it is possible he does not.
Belacqua has said:
I don't know about pantheists, or which ones you're referring to, but in classical Christian theology it's generally said that God does nothing. As impassible and perfect, God has no motion or change.
^^^^^There has never been a singular christian theology. The Bible gives indications of them arguing with each other.
So, who exactly has said that god does nothing? Where and when did he live?
Belacqua has said:
Yes, there are a lot of different versions. You are making up a particular version and then arguing against that. If you'd like to read about what educated Christians believe, you could do that, too.
^^^^^Belacqua is arrogant.
As if the beliefs of an uneducated christian is not relevant.
What does an educated christian know about the shape of the jewish god right now?