That Gay Thread

[LadyForCamus]

I have no problem with reparations. Resources are essential. But how can we specifically target the hatred and violence against black trans women that is considered a “pandemic” in America right now? I’m thinking a good first step would be clear, public messaging that trans women are women, and a sharp and passionate rebuking of anyone, especially wildly popular celebrities with expansive platforms, who insinuate or explicitly assert otherwise. If we aren’t actively fighting against harmful, false narratives about trans folks, like that they’re sick and that they need to be fixed or that they’re just “confused,”  then we’re not helping trans people.

I think I, a white woman, care more about the black trans community than you do, Hugz. Now, go ahead and die mad about it.

How is something that affects less than 1% of the Black population (which is only 12 percent of the overall population) considered a pandemic? Since you specifically referred to trans women that's less than half of a percent of the Black population.

Because that group is disproportionately affected by violence and hate crimes including murder and sexual assault compared to other, much larger groups. Derp. You do understand proportions, right? What do you honestly hope to achieve by playing willfully obtuse?

 But more broadly, thanks for finally taking off the mask and showing us that you don’t actually care about black trans people after you ranted for twenty pages about how “no one” cared about Ed Buck’s poor, LGBTQ/black victims, and after you just posted a video invoking empathy and compassion toward that very group for the disproportionately extreme discrimination and oppression they experience. Do you care about black trans people or not? Can you pick a position and stick with it? They’re kind of mutually exclusive, you know. If not, I’ll just get you the clown make-up and you can carry on.

Provide the evidence that black trans suffer at a higher rate than cis black males.

See @Rev. Rye’s post getting you started. Once again, someone else is putting in the work for your lazy, willfully ignorant ass on a subject that you half-assedly pretended to care about, and then did a full about-face after pages of actual virtue signaling about the black LGBTQ community, lol.

If it was a trans issue and not a race issue, white trans should have the same problems.

Didn’t you just post an entire video explaining that black LGBTQ faces more oppression and discrimination than white LGBTQ because they have the added factor of racism to contend with? As mentioned, we’ve reached the point in the discussion (like every discussion with you) where you’re objecting to your own arguments, lol. 

As you’ve already made a compelling case for, it’s obviously both a race and a trans issue, which is why black trans people, that tiny percent of folks you clearly don’t give a shit about, specifically have it so much worse than white trans people.

Organizations like the Human Rights Campaign have released several reports detailing potential sources of this violence. In particular, Black trans women are killed at disproportionate rates because of “the intersections of racism, transphobia, sexism, biphobia and homophobia.” A report from CNN’s discussion with Kerith Conron, from the Williams Institute at UCLA, notes that the easiest answer to why Black trans women are disproportionately victims of fatal violence is that “[t]hey’re black, they’re transgender, and they’re women. Each of those distinct identities means that they face discrimination, prejudice and inequities on multiple fronts.”

Just admit you don’t like trans people. Admit that you don’t care about their well-being because Jebus, or because you think they’re icky, and we can all just stop wasting our time trying to have in intellectually honest conversation with a person who’s clearly interested in no such thing.