(October 25, 2021 at 5:33 pm)Huggy Bear Wrote:(October 25, 2021 at 5:25 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Oh, boy. You’re breaking out the dictionary definitions again, lol.
I don’t @Huggy Bear. Why should we call the small number of police killings of unarmed black men a serious problem when there’s just so few of them compared to everyone else?
Keep on clownin.’ 🤡
It's not the number of police killings that's the problem, it's the fact that they rarely get punished. The more police get punished, the less likely they are to shoot unarmed folks, see how that works?
(October 25, 2021 at 5:28 pm)Oldandeasilyconfused Wrote: I feel a need to give and a serious answer to 'why should I care' and something about us not caring.
"Should you care, about anything?" is actually an important question of moral philosophy. IMO neither I nor anyone else has the right to tell another what /who they should or should not care about. This is question for each individual. Nor is it right of me to accuse a person who claims not to care of being callous, even if it seems to be true.
If Huggy is interested, which I doubt, there's a vast amount of information online about moral philosophy. I'll be brief to give just one possible reason to care about others, any others. It's called ethical egoism. This simply means that it is to my advantage to show caring for others/obey laws if I'm going to live in a society. I'm pretty sure there's also an evolutionary advantage to belong to a group.
In the simplest terms, you give to get.
There's a famous poem called "Then They came---" which sums this up perhaps why one should care about minorities. Below is the short version:
"First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me."
Below is link to the full version and Wiki article about the poem
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_...
I hope you realize you're responding to something I never said.
Well, I'm old and easily confused, so I may have misread. Could have sworn you asked why you should care about 1% of black people.(?) You then accused us of not caring, having somehow gotten the idea that's relevant.
Claiming you should not care because others don't is not only a morally supine position, it's a basic logical fallacy called Tu Quoque (you too) or appeal to hypocrisy. If we are speaking about your moral position or behaviour, what others do or do not do is irrelevant.
(Sorry about using Godwin's law) This claim is also known as the Nuremberg defence and Nazi War criminal tried to use it at the Nuremberg war trails after WW2. This kind of thing " Well, yes, we might have discriminated against the Jews. But, look at how America treats it's black troops in its armed forces and in America generally ---Well yes, we did obliterate Coventry But the allies fire bombed Dresden. That generally the allies committed a lot of war crimes" Each of those claims was actually true. However, they did not diminish nor excuse war crimes committed by the Germans.
My apologies if I misunderstood or read only what you actually wrote rather than what you meant. I do that a lot.