RE: Alec Baldwin Shooting
October 29, 2021 at 8:24 am
(This post was last modified: October 29, 2021 at 8:35 am by Spongebob.)
(October 28, 2021 at 9:28 pm)Fireball Wrote: One that springs to mind is the episode where they "investigated" the strength of RATO packs on aircraft. The found a guy who was willing to provide them with rockets strapped onto the roof of a mid-'60s Chevrolet to help it accelerate on the course they chose. Supplying rockets for that sort of thing is unlawful. I'm surprised that charges weren't filed. As a member of the National Association of Rocketry in years past, anyone storing over some amount of propellant was required to have a Low Explosives Users Permit. That BATFE ruling was eventually struck down because the particular propellant to be controlled was APCP, which the used grain size was far below the detonation size of about 1000 pounds. One has to qualify for use of rocket propellant on a three-level requirement for the amount of propellant used. The guy skated around those rules by using experimental fuel. Those guys took their, and the people around them, lives in their own hands.
I didn't remember this episode so I did some searching. For some reason every reference I found to it called it a JATO car, but I wouldn't describe what they were using as a jet. It was definitely a rocket. Could the laws be different state by state or is that a federal thing? Do you think they might have acquired the proper permits to use the devices? And I wouldn't say they're setup was unsafe, at least not when the rockets were fired. The cast and crew were a good distance away and behind a shield. I suppose you could argue just handling the fuel is risky but I don't know much about the stability of that fuel. They guys did work in the special effects industry, so using explosives wouldn't be new to them.
(October 29, 2021 at 7:08 am)Ten Wrote: The thing that gets me is that on this particular set, they'd already had like 3 other accidental discharges due to the incompetence of this production. I agree that if it were just this once, Mr. Baldwin isn't expected to assume anything other than what the expert, who's only job on set is to determine weapon safety and handle the weapons, has said and he isn't responsible. It was an accident. But this happened 3 times already? When does Baldwin become responsible? When exactly is he expected to be like, "This set is unsafe and I either need to demand better conditions or at least be in charge of myself." I mean, is this normal? Does he work in cutting corners productions all the time and it just didn't enter his awareness? Or is he so egotistical that he assumed he would be luckier than he turned out to be?
I mean, it's easy enough to see the uncharitable take in "He shoulda done this and this!" But prior knowledge of 3 accidents with weapons already? It's gotta make sense at some point.
I think you may be on to something there. It may well be an attitude problem with the industry itself. That's just speculation on my part; I have no knowledge regarding this. But I do know that if safety isn't taken very seriously, then it basically falls into the same pot as everything else and the most critical thing becomes the thing that gets the most attention, bet it budget or schedule or pampering the star. When I read that people used prop guns for target practice during downtime, that set off some alarms for me. It means that the firearms aren't taken as seriously as I would expect. What if two ding dongs went out to shoot a few Coke cans and one of them "accidentally" shot the other? The production would be liable. So, when I view this from the context of industry, absolutely no horseplay is acceptable and anything dangerous is carefully managed. Imagine a mining operation where explosives are used almost every day. Two yahoos decide they are going to go off site with a few sticks of TNT and have some fun. They would be fired and likely banned from the industry.
Why is it so?
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