(October 29, 2021 at 12:32 pm)ronedee Wrote:(October 27, 2021 at 9:19 pm)Foxaire Wrote: When an organization is revealed to be corrupt, you don't continue to unreasonably support it. That's just common sense.
I suggest watching the video, which documents the "style" since at least the late 1940's and through the 1960's.
Vatican II, became the "open door" to Liberalism in the church, and the continued corruption and tolerance of abuse within the church.
(October 27, 2021 at 9:33 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: Ummm... how many of us do you hear blaming God for things?
Catholic Church has been an evil mess ever since it gained massive power and prestige. Some sixteen or so centuries ago. Seekers of the "gay lifestyle" are not the problem here... if gay lifestyle means seeking consensual sex with people. It's the nonconsensual shit (gay or otherwise) that's the problem here.
Enjoy cleaning up your powerful and prestigious institution. So long as it's rich and powerful, it's going to be a corrupt mess.
Sorry, I meant the "worship of God". Which usually collects all denominations of Christianity. I should've been more clear.
The amount of gays in the clergy is enormous. And the overwhelming evidence shows they ran the seminaries for decades, only admitting "like-minded" individuals.
And, there will be a small congregation left when it finally does get fumigated.
(October 28, 2021 at 12:17 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: It was never a secret, everyone knows about pedos in the Church but the Church won't do anything to stop priests to rape children and is protecting them from the police.
For example, everyone knew about the prolific pedophile priest Marcial Maciel and how the Vatican was protecting him. Here the Cardinal Ratzinger was confronted by a reporter who was asking him to do something about this active pedophile, but Ratz only got angry at the reporter (good ol' blame the victim/ messenger) and pretened that he doesn't know about him - although he was well known to everyone else.
Eventually, Maciel retired, and the Vatican sent him to jail - no, just kidding. They sent him to live in one of many villas owned by the Vatican and think about what he did.
Because the church has been infiltrated for almost a century. And the crimes have been covered up.
The number of ‘gays in the clergy’ has always been enormous (relative to the general population), but that’s got nothing to do with the Church being in decline. The cause is much more likely to be the hard-liners.
As society in general becomes more open and accepting of divergence - in sexuality, reproductive rights, politics, religious expression - the Church has largely held on to dogma that doesn’t reflect either the attitudes or the desires of its congregants. In other words, the Catholic Church has failed Catholics. That is the chief reason you have empty pews. If the Church wants more congregants, it needs to change its stances on abortion, birth control, a celibate all-male priesthood, gay marriage, and many other issues.
People aren’t leaving the Church because their priest is playing ‘hide the cannoli’ with other men. That’s just silly.
Boru
