RE: That Gay Thread
October 31, 2021 at 3:31 am
(This post was last modified: October 31, 2021 at 3:36 am by The Architect Of Fate.)
(October 31, 2021 at 2:38 am)Nay_Sayer Wrote:His points are also braindead no one defending the stuff Ashlee Marie Preston said almost a decade ago (to which she already apologized ) It has nothing to do with what Dave is currently doing and is totally unapologetic about having done. These two things are not the same.(October 31, 2021 at 2:22 am)Huggy Bear Wrote: What's the arguments against Dave? He's not allowed to freely express his opinions?
Here's the thing, this person organized the walkout at netflix, don't think that's hypocritical? Do YOU think Dave shouldn't be allowed to express his point of view?
You may not know her by name, but if you'd been paying attention to Dave Chappele and the debacle at Netflix, you'd of heard of her handiwork.
You're wrong.
(Someone requote this) Huggy is a coward who blocked me.
(October 31, 2021 at 2:51 am)Rev. Rye Wrote:Indeed free speech doesn't entitle you to a privately owned platform. Also, I find it ironic he's whining about Dave's free speech when he seems to have an issue with the employees of Netflix using their free speech to protest Dave's Transphobia.(October 31, 2021 at 2:22 am)Huggy Bear Wrote: What's the arguments against Dave? He's not allowed to freely express his opinions?
The argument against Dave overall is that he made a standup special that's filled with statements against trans people (a minority of people that has to keep putting up with a lot of oppression, including bills that specifically target them for doing something as simple as using their preferred restroom) that are not only offensive, they're often just plain incorrect*. And, because of this, many believe Netflix should remove it. He may have the right to express his opinions, but that doesn't mean a particular platform has to put up with them. You want more specifics, Jessie Gender has a good overview, and even does a good job of putting his bullshit into perspective.
* The claim that trans folk are somehow analogous to blackface strikes me as a particularly blatant example. Hey, gang, why is blackface considered offensive? If you answer "because it's been so thoroughly linked with portrayals of black people that mock and dehumanise them that it's more or less irredeemable," you'd be correct. If someone assigned male at birth becomes transgender, well, they're not doing it to mock women. They're not part of a tradition that dehumanise women. Frankly, they are women. And even if you don't co-sign with that view, they still believe themselves in their heart of hearts to be women. The closest comparison possible between the two concepts would be a hypothetical version of Black Like Me where John Howard Griffin takes his six-week experiment of living as a black person in the Jim Crow South to understand racism firsthand and, instead of just stopping his Methoxsalen intake and retreating to a motel room for several days, he decided to keep living as a black person for the rest of his life, with an extra helping of scorn because he was born white and became black.
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