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Isn’t pantheism the same thing as atheism?
RE: Isn’t pantheism the same thing as atheism?
It comes down to how one wants to use a word.
In my case, a hammer has a “meaning” because a human (a brain) created the hammer bc he wants to drive nails into wood.
By meaning, I mean purpose/job/function.

If no brain created nature, then it has no meaning. It simply is what it is. Existence is just existence.
If nature (a brainless thing) created humans, humans have no meaning, no purpose.

That’s why during this thread, I was asking about whether the pantheist god is a brain or is he just the universe (no brain).

(November 18, 2021 at 8:30 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: which refers to personal and intervening forces. I don't think that nature is personal..though I'll give it intervening.

By personal, do you mean it has a brain?
Maybe my english is not so good.
For example, if this cup is mine, I would say it is my personal cup. In other words, the word personal means “it belongs to”.

Yes, I am in agreement with that view. I think long ago, at some point, humans thought that the forces of nature had a brain or maybe there was a “spirit” animating them.
The forces would be: The wind, the mountain/volcano, the water, the weather, storm and lightning, disease.
It’s called animism.
I imagine that they tried to reason with it, they tried to make deals with the forces. (Give the wind some fruits, some goat, some virgin girl or boy.)
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RE: Isn’t pantheism the same thing as atheism? - by Duty - March 14, 2021 at 12:58 pm
RE: Isn’t pantheism the same thing as atheism? - by Seax - March 19, 2021 at 12:53 am
RE: Isn’t pantheism the same thing as atheism? - by Ferrocyanide - November 18, 2021 at 1:20 pm
RE: Isn’t pantheism the same thing as atheism? - by Alan V - November 18, 2021 at 3:38 pm
RE: Isn’t pantheism the same thing as atheism? - by Alan V - November 19, 2021 at 5:18 pm
RE: Isn’t pantheism the same thing as atheism? - by Alan V - November 20, 2021 at 2:05 pm
RE: Isn’t pantheism the same thing as atheism? - by Alan V - November 21, 2021 at 7:54 am
RE: Isn’t pantheism the same thing as atheism? - by Alan V - November 22, 2021 at 2:37 pm
RE: Isn’t pantheism the same thing as atheism? - by Alan V - November 23, 2021 at 1:29 pm
RE: Isn’t pantheism the same thing as atheism? - by Alan V - November 22, 2021 at 8:43 pm
RE: Isn’t pantheism the same thing as atheism? - by Angrboda - November 23, 2021 at 10:04 am

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