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Isn’t pantheism the same thing as atheism?
RE: Isn’t pantheism the same thing as atheism?
Lack of free will strongly suggests we shouldn't hold moral agents (including the pantheistic "god") accountable for their actions. But there is still room for the determinist/incompatablist to judge actions morally good or bad. The determinist/incompatabalist thinks we ought not hold people morally responsible for their choices because their choices are merely nature unfolding according to its laws. 

The correct thing to do is see to the causes of immoral behavior and fix those. Otherwise, you're just getting mad at the water for fizzing after an alka-seltzer tablet has been dropped in. Don't get mad at the water for fizzing. Stop the alka-seltzer tablet from being dropped in if the fizzing bothers you so much.

But there's nothing stopping the determinist from judging fizzy water as better/worse than non-fizzy water. Of course, some hard determinists are also moral nihilists. That makes sense too. Both metaethical theories are compatible with determinism as I see it.
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RE: Isn’t pantheism the same thing as atheism? - by Duty - March 14, 2021 at 12:58 pm
RE: Isn’t pantheism the same thing as atheism? - by Seax - March 19, 2021 at 12:53 am
RE: Isn’t pantheism the same thing as atheism? - by Alan V - November 18, 2021 at 3:38 pm
RE: Isn’t pantheism the same thing as atheism? - by Alan V - November 19, 2021 at 5:18 pm
RE: Isn’t pantheism the same thing as atheism? - by Alan V - November 20, 2021 at 2:05 pm
RE: Isn’t pantheism the same thing as atheism? - by Alan V - November 21, 2021 at 7:54 am
RE: Isn’t pantheism the same thing as atheism? - by Alan V - November 22, 2021 at 2:37 pm
RE: Isn’t pantheism the same thing as atheism? - by Alan V - November 23, 2021 at 1:29 pm
RE: Isn’t pantheism the same thing as atheism? - by Alan V - November 22, 2021 at 8:43 pm
RE: Isn’t pantheism the same thing as atheism? - by Angrboda - November 23, 2021 at 10:04 am
RE: Isn’t pantheism the same thing as atheism? - by vulcanlogician - November 25, 2021 at 4:29 pm

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