RE: Who has killed more - Satan or God?
November 19, 2011 at 10:41 am
(This post was last modified: November 19, 2011 at 10:44 am by Norfolk And Chance.)
He'll get you on "unlawful"
God = lawful because god is perfect, so it wasn't murder being lawful, it was "killing". You just can't escape that circular argument without having to point out once again, that god needs to be real for that argument to apply. But if he isn't real he hasn't committed those murders.
So the entire "god murdered so many" argument relies on the atheist to assume god is real for the sake of debate and this plays straight into the theistic hands, because they apply god's attributes to the argument knowing you can't really dismiss his attributes if you accept even hypothetically that he is real.
You can though complain bitterly that if it is real and even if god from a theistic viewpoint is lawful and killing justifiably, that you think he is a stone age tyrant who you would never want to follow.
And it all then descends back down to square one - the atheist will eventually say that he doesn't believe god is real so the argument is bunk anyway, and the theist will say he's real
We might as well just say "yes he is, no he isn't" and nothing else for the rest of our lives because that is THE only point that matters.
And at least we'd be right.
God = lawful because god is perfect, so it wasn't murder being lawful, it was "killing". You just can't escape that circular argument without having to point out once again, that god needs to be real for that argument to apply. But if he isn't real he hasn't committed those murders.
So the entire "god murdered so many" argument relies on the atheist to assume god is real for the sake of debate and this plays straight into the theistic hands, because they apply god's attributes to the argument knowing you can't really dismiss his attributes if you accept even hypothetically that he is real.
You can though complain bitterly that if it is real and even if god from a theistic viewpoint is lawful and killing justifiably, that you think he is a stone age tyrant who you would never want to follow.
And it all then descends back down to square one - the atheist will eventually say that he doesn't believe god is real so the argument is bunk anyway, and the theist will say he's real
We might as well just say "yes he is, no he isn't" and nothing else for the rest of our lives because that is THE only point that matters.
And at least we'd be right.
You are currently experiencing a lucky and very brief window of awareness, sandwiched in between two periods of timeless and utter nothingness. So why not make the most of it, and stop wasting your life away trying to convince other people that there is something else? The reality is obvious.
