(January 24, 2022 at 10:21 am)Angrboda Wrote: Someone asked about whether the definition of God is incoherent or unambiguous. Those are radically different things. Incoherent is a problem, but one that need be demonstrated.
If we take all the various claims about gods or god, yes they are incoherent.
One guy says that god is like a human.
Another says that he has a body. Another says he has a spirit.
A few people have told me that god is love.
In some versions, such as the jewish god, there is one god and he has existed forever. Or maybe jews are henotheist.
It is clear that the majority think that god has a brain (that it is some form of intelligence).
So, it certainly looks incoherent to me.
Quote:We do so with things all the time. As noted on this forum, there is no unambiguous definition of what a chair is, but we don't consider that a bar to talking about and believing in chairs.
This is a matter of certification. We can take an object and see if it can serve the purpose of a human for sitting down on it and we can certify it as a chair.
Sometimes, the sidewalk becomes a chair, sometimes a rock in the woods becomes a chair.
Objects can be multiple things, have multiple purposes.
Example:
I can use a rock to play tic tac toe on it and I can use it as a chair.
But what’s the deal with the definition of a god? The definition varies from person to person, from culture to culture.
So far, 0 objects have been certified as being a god.
Jesus has been certified as a god? Nope.
You need to perform a series of tests to certify him.
===> In fact, where is the certification process? <===
It has happened a few times that a christian has asked me:
“What are you going to say to god when you meet him?”
I replied to the christian:
“I would say: >>Hello, how are you. Why do you think that you are a god?<<
What will you do? Are you going to immediately bow down and worship some guy you never met before just because he has a sticker on his shirt that says “I am a god””.
The christian responds:
“I would just know that he is god.”
This tells me that the definition of a god is so shitty that there isn’t anything to look for.
When it comes to chairs, the definition is a functional definition.