Russia and Ukraine

[Anomalocaris]

all this bellyaching about whether ukraine was a democracy and whether it’s policy expresses the will of its people reveals a naive and delusional detachment from fundamental reality what it takes to conduct business as a nation that wishes to secure its ability to conduct independent foreign policy.

The bedrock reality is no powerful nation that wishes to pursue a independent foreign policy, whether itself can be classified as democracy in any way shape or form, would care whether or not another country is a democracy or not if that country ‘s policies threaten to neuter its own nuclear deterrence.    If it believe it can’t cause that country to reverse its policy by other means, it would most certainly resort to doing it by force.

credible nuclear deterrence is considered the fundamental long term guarantor of a nation’s existence and ability to conduct independent foreign policy, and once acquired is not to be given up under any circumstance, and to be secured at any price.

Oh fuck right off, you Russian apologist.  Go back to watching Tucker Carlson.

If you believe that it is good and right to invade a democratic country because it is changing its foreign policy, then we have nothing to discuss - ever.

Hate to break this to you, democratic form of government does not give a state carte blanche to do what it wants to threaten the existential interest of its neighbor, even if the neighbor is an autocracy.   Even less does denocracy give a state immunity from the blow backs if it willing acts as a pawn in another state’s quest to bring down its own big neighbor,  just as virtue does not confer immunity from gravity. 

So it is totally immaterial whether it is good or right to invade or destroy a democracy if it is needed to preserve a country’s existential interests,  it almost certainly will happen, just as it is immaterial whether it is right or good for gravity to pull a virtuous person who slipped off a cliff to his death. it will happen.

if a small democracy threaten a large autocracy’s nuclear deterrence, and will not back down, it will be road kill just as surely as a virtuous person slipping off of a cliff will plunge to death.

guess what, if a small democracy for some reason threaten a large democracy’s nuclear deterrence, and will not back down, it will be road kill just as surely as of it threaten a large autocracies nuclear deterrence. 

guess what did not need to happen, but happed because we, good old USA, all edged champion of democracy, thought we see an cheap opportunity to take down russia by nullifying her nuclear deterrence and thought ukraine would be no big loss of it doesn’t work out?

 pushing the independent Ukraine to join nato so as to threaten the large autocracy’s nuclear deterrence.   in fact we did so precisely to threaten russia’s nuclear deterrence. 

and now we bellyache about Russia reacting violently. 

so fuck you too.

if you think gravity is not worth discussing because it will pull the virtuous as well as the wicked to their deaths, or it is now worth talking to one who would discuss such a gravity, 

then thank you.

you saved me a few seconds that i might otherwise have wasted on a wish thinking, self-righteous delusional moron.