Russia and Ukraine

[Anomalocaris]

There goes civility, I guess.

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I always thought I was just a average Joe until I realized how much you guys all sucked compared to me

Jesus christ, how did I miss this?  Okay Ahri...okay.

Look, maybe you are an average joe - but that wouldn't say anything promising about ukraine's future, russias future, our future in the us, the west in general....and probably isn't an omen of good fortune wherever you're from, either.

i would worry much more about how many nuclear warheads other people think is necessary to keep us from interfering in their existential concerns than the future of Ukraine. 

If ukraine wanted to continue to exist, it should not clambered to join NATO.   poking a finger in the eye of the Goliath standing next to you in the hope the a distant giant will risk his own nuckear immolation to come save you does not suggest the world would be safer because Ukraine remains independent and a democracy.

think of it as a a modern day equivalent or serbia on the eve of WWI when everyone shed tears for its “democracy”.

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I suspect that powerful people, especially if they're actually powerful, can secure their existential interests without invading Ukraine or anywhere else.  Something along those lines may be their pretext for war, but that's all it is.  Pretext.

no, they are powerful because they can invade ukraine to secure their existential interests.