(February 26, 2022 at 7:57 pm)Foxaire Wrote: By all empirical logic, god does not exist.
"Empirical logic" can only inform us about stuff inside the empirical world, but doesn't apply to the creator of the empirical world..
(February 26, 2022 at 7:57 pm)Foxaire Wrote: First, prove the god exists.
As I said in the other thread:
I have the perceptual experience of an external world, therefore I posit the existence of an external world.
There appears to be other people than myself, therefore it's reasonable to posit the existence of other people.
There appears to be design, therefore it's reasonable to posit a designer.
Anyone who disputes the fact that our perceptual experience of order in nature strongly point to a deisgner of the world is either dishonest or denying their senses.