RE: What is truth.
March 24, 2022 at 6:33 pm
(This post was last modified: March 24, 2022 at 6:34 pm by deepend.)
(March 24, 2022 at 6:23 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote:(March 24, 2022 at 6:09 pm)deepend Wrote: There is real truth out there. But I am only interested in truth on important matters. How to know what the truth is? For the most part it is the opposite of what the vast majority of people think it is. Also, for the vast majority of people, they just don't care. That is mostly because of brainwashing. Frank Zappa did a good song about the brainwashing power of television. (Though of course that isn't the only source) The song is called, "I'm The Slime." I will tell you some of the lyrics. I know them by heart. "You will obey me while I lead you. And eat the garbage that I feed you. Until the day that we don't need you. Don't go for help, no one will heed you. Your mind is totally controlled. It has been stuffed into my mold. And you will do as you are told. Until the rights to you are sold." I have tried to the extent I am allowed around here and at many forums to give people a more accurate picture of the world. It just isn't allowed.
Well, you're a Frank Zappa fan. So you can't be totally horrible.
I've listened to a handful of Frank Zappa songs, and each one was excellent.
So I think your idea is pretty ancient. If I follow you correctly, you're kind of talking about Plato's Cave, where people mistake shadows on the wall for reality. Plato's solution is to make excruciating intellectual effort to leave the cave. What's your solution?
My solution basically is to be disliked. Even hated. Though not by my choice. And the reason why is as ancient as humanity. Long ago Plato had something to say on the subject. It was most likely true long before him and is still true. He said, "Nobody is more hated than he who speaks the truth." George Orwell said something similar. Too bad I can't just post a meme of it. But he said, "The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those that speak it."
(March 24, 2022 at 6:26 pm)brewer Wrote:(March 24, 2022 at 6:09 pm)deepend Wrote: There is real truth out there. But I am only interested in truth on important matters. How to know what the truth is? For the most part it is the opposite of what the vast majority of people think it is. Also, for the vast majority of people, they just don't care. That is mostly because of brainwashing. Frank Zappa did a good song about the brainwashing power of television. (Though of course that isn't the only source) The song is called, "I'm The Slime." I will tell you some of the lyrics. I know them by heart. "You will obey me while I lead you. And eat the garbage that I feed you. Until the day that we don't need you. Don't go for help, no one will heed you. Your mind is totally controlled. It has been stuffed into my mold. And you will do as you are told. Until the rights to you are sold." I have tried to the extent I am allowed around here and at many forums to give people a more accurate picture of the world. It just isn't allowed.
Sounds like the 'truth' you want to tell about is very subjective.
That's what debate is for.
