(March 27, 2022 at 7:16 pm)Helios Wrote: Let's sum it up
1. Ukraine has the right to join any organization it wants without fear of military retaliation and if Russia is threatened by this its job is to increase defenses within its own borders. Invading other countries is not a valid response
If you ask me, this invasion is just one more reason why Ukraine should join an alliance that would help them in case something like this ever happens again.
(March 27, 2022 at 7:16 pm)Helios Wrote: 2. The presence of fascists within a nation is not a justification for invading other countries and endangering the lives of people who have nothing to do with said fascists
Fascists exist everywhere.

Let's nuke the world!
(March 27, 2022 at 7:16 pm)Helios Wrote: 3. Being the same ethnic group is not a justification for invading other countries. It wasn't when Hitler did it and isn't now.
4. Formerly owning a place doesn't give you rights to it. otherwise, every former colonial power could claim any place they use to own.
Ahem.... Jews in Israel? Remember how they got there after WW2?
Have you noticed how quiet Israel has been?
(March 27, 2022 at 7:16 pm)Helios Wrote: 5. Ukraine's abuses of ethnic Russians are a matter of international law and are not a justification for invading other countries.
Kinda like the Uyghurs in China. Should the Taliban invade China?
(March 27, 2022 at 7:16 pm)Helios Wrote: 6. American wars of aggression do not justify Russian ones
No, but they do point to the "hypocrisy of the West", as they call it.
But it looks like we've gone into kid territory in this thread.... the kids who have no grasp for nuance and then ask "If he can do it why can't I??"