RE: Russia and Ukraine
April 13, 2022 at 2:48 pm
(This post was last modified: April 13, 2022 at 3:00 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Yeah, really. Its one of those things where the need engenders its abuse. When we hit pavement, we have two options..... synthetic fertilizer, and livestock. The shit from livestock is already marketable, but it's the cheapest part. No one will (economically) keep cattle for bullshit alone when no one is eating steak.
So where then, do we get the outsized nitrogen requirement of contemporary ag? The baseline of conventianal agriculture assumes that hundreds and hundreds of pounds per acre of nitrogen are available in the form of cheap manure or synethetic equivalents. We've only ever met that condition when we've turned oil to N. With that n, alone, the us can produce 4x the grain...without it...well......... That was my first professional disappointment. When I realized that sustainable and organic...were not the same.
If people decided not to eat meat en masse, there would be less of an economic reason to raise livestock....and if that was true, we'd lose out on that n, which is already used to (fail) to satisfy global hunger. If every consumer in the us went full leafy green activist, people would die. That's a problem for those of us who advocate for something like that. -The Problem-...really. I don't personally have a solution. Wish I did, I'd be an american oligarch.
So where then, do we get the outsized nitrogen requirement of contemporary ag? The baseline of conventianal agriculture assumes that hundreds and hundreds of pounds per acre of nitrogen are available in the form of cheap manure or synethetic equivalents. We've only ever met that condition when we've turned oil to N. With that n, alone, the us can produce 4x the grain...without it...well......... That was my first professional disappointment. When I realized that sustainable and organic...were not the same.
If people decided not to eat meat en masse, there would be less of an economic reason to raise livestock....and if that was true, we'd lose out on that n, which is already used to (fail) to satisfy global hunger. If every consumer in the us went full leafy green activist, people would die. That's a problem for those of us who advocate for something like that. -The Problem-...really. I don't personally have a solution. Wish I did, I'd be an american oligarch.
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