Daily conspiracy

[Irreligious Atheist]

Whether it's legal or not, is it moral? And I know I can't for sure know why these things happen, but my hunch is that there are ulterior motives, because I look at who benefits in these things. Big news comes on the telly that a lone wolf jihadist terrorist attack was just foiled. The normies at home are thinking "thank god for our intelligence community". The intelligence community gets to jerk themselves off and basically say, "see, it's a good thing we have the Patriot Act and took a bunch of your civil liberties away, because that sacrifice by you is what's keeping you safe." And, the MIC potentially gets a bump in approval ratings for their disastrous wars on Muslim countries. Am I crazy for thinking about who benefits in these situations? Maybe, but it makes a hell of a lot of sense to me.

Who benefits thanks to the Whitmer plot? Whitmer for one, who was going way overboard with lockdowns compared to other leaders. This plot turned Whitmer into a hero/ almost martyr of sorts, and was a blot on the name of people who didn't support that crazy level of lockdown. You could say it helped Democrats in general. Also, the Whitmer plot could be used as further justification for the new, upgraded Patriot Act that President Biden has talked about. Again, maybe I'm crazy, and maybe it's just a coincidence that all of these people benefit from the plot and maybe the FBI was just winging it and these are all just bonuses thrown in that they weren't even thinking about. I think powerful people have goals. Many people here seem to just think that all of these powerful people are just winging it as they go along. We'll just have to agree to disagree on that front.

You are off the deep end.

The only thing I agree with is that law enforcement has an incentive to entrap people.  Judges and juries can throw out cases, but it helps law-enforcement careers and funding if more people are charged.  The citizens are generally okay with this, as most people are pro-law-enforcement.  A bad guy got entrapped?  Who cares - he still did something that proved he was a bad guy.

I actually do care about the idea that someone who wouldn't otherwise have done a crime, was actively enticed to do so.  I haven't seen such evidence here.  Just having the FBI involved isn't entrapment.  The right-wing wants this to be a Left-wing plot, when at worst it is a law-enforcement gray area that has existed for as long as I've been alive.

What I was saying about the FBI and them setting up and foiling Muslim terrorist plots is actually a very common view among progressives. Every progressive alternative media outlet I watch, has basically said the exact thing I posted, so I'm not exactly going into 9/11 truther territory here. The war machine and intelligence community will do what it must to justify it's own existence and the erasure of people's rights in the name of safety. Very common view.

It says in the buzzfeed article I posted that undercover people working for the FBI urged violent actions against public officials.

And to Nudge, I never claimed that Whitmer was involved in creating the plot.