@Won2blv
Are you gonna respond to the things folks have said in your thread? Angrboda asked for some clarity on exactly what you mean, and that's where I'm at too.
Like could you give us a thesis statement, or a one-sentence summary of the overall point you are trying to make, please?
As far as I'm concerned, meaningfulness is an important issue to discuss. It's one of those things that's important but tricky. Some atheists make it sound like you can just pull any meaning for life out of your ass and it'll do just fine. I disagree with this. If a person is looking for meaning, it means they are already dissatisfied with "off the shelf" meanings that do the trick for many others.
One of the difficult parts of life is that it involves a ton of meaningless suffering. It's chalk full of it. We often like to point the finger at villains or greater society or some other "thing" that causes suffering for its own sinister (or apathetic) purposes. But the fact is, most of our suffering is completely meaningless. Just an arbitrary life condition.
That's why religious meaning resonates with people. It transcends life's innate "suffering for no reason." Even atheists like Nietzsche noted that "He who has a 'why' can endure almost any 'how.'"
Of course there are a multitude of ways to address meaninglessness. Religion being only one. Camus noted a few others: suicide and embracing the absurd among them.
Are you gonna respond to the things folks have said in your thread? Angrboda asked for some clarity on exactly what you mean, and that's where I'm at too.
Like could you give us a thesis statement, or a one-sentence summary of the overall point you are trying to make, please?
As far as I'm concerned, meaningfulness is an important issue to discuss. It's one of those things that's important but tricky. Some atheists make it sound like you can just pull any meaning for life out of your ass and it'll do just fine. I disagree with this. If a person is looking for meaning, it means they are already dissatisfied with "off the shelf" meanings that do the trick for many others.
One of the difficult parts of life is that it involves a ton of meaningless suffering. It's chalk full of it. We often like to point the finger at villains or greater society or some other "thing" that causes suffering for its own sinister (or apathetic) purposes. But the fact is, most of our suffering is completely meaningless. Just an arbitrary life condition.
That's why religious meaning resonates with people. It transcends life's innate "suffering for no reason." Even atheists like Nietzsche noted that "He who has a 'why' can endure almost any 'how.'"
Of course there are a multitude of ways to address meaninglessness. Religion being only one. Camus noted a few others: suicide and embracing the absurd among them.
