Evolution cannot account for morality

[chiknsld]

You're saying that empathy already existed as a consequence of evolution? That's interesting because it does appear that animals already display some characteristics of empathy, even though they are pretty brutal, lol. So the ability to empathize coupled with higher intelligence than that of primal animals, is what allowed humans to create morality? This actually makes some sense. I suppose what does not make sense is the fact that evolution exists in the first place.

No, empathy was the result of humans living in groups to sustain life, human psych evolution. The animals that display this behavior also live in groups.

Your problem seems to be that you believe 'evolution' is only genetic.

Ah, I see, the whole nurture part of life. Yes I think you are right I look at all behavior as pretty much a direct result of genetics. I also find it hard to believe that any infinite amount of "group socializing" can somehow be passed on to offspring. Even if you can pass on some characteristics such as temperament, I would see a big difference between that and empathy. Most psychopaths did not have psychopathic parents (they might have had certain genetic predispositions to psychopathy however). 

I guess if you raised Hitler in a different environment he could have been a normal person, but then again he could have had some psychological issues (something wrong with his brain). But I am pretty sure if Hitler had children that wouldn't mean that they would be evil as well. I do not think being "good" or "bad", or having empathy, is a trait that is passed on to children (like having green eyes).

What makes more sense is that empathy is already part of life itself and that as organisms become more intelligent, for some reason this results in a higher emanation of that morality which is already inherent to life. In other words, I see morality as a direct indication or corollary of intelligence (rather than something like IQ).

Do you think it's possible that there could exist a super advanced species that is several orders of magnitude more intelligent than humans, which do not care about morality? It feels as though life has a willingness towards morality, perhaps from its own understanding that there is value in survival. But you would have to wonder how such a subjective "value" could be derived from billions of years of matter existing.