(June 1, 2022 at 1:28 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:(June 1, 2022 at 1:15 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (Bold mine)
It’s fairly well established that plants exhibit minimal self awareness. Does this mean petunias believe they have souls (since it’s pretty certain that their self awareness is even less fully self aware than our own)?
Boru
Really, to what extent have we established plants are self-aware in the sense of running a model of itself on, something, in order to predict consequences and affect its own behavior?
Also, how does the notion thar being more accurately and completely aware of ourselves than we currently are would have precluded the delusion of a soul, imply the delusion of soul is intrinsic to all lesser degrees or types of self-awareness?
To this extent:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4571702/
To be fair, it describes self awareness as a general concept, not the specific definition that you personally dreamed up.
Second paragraph: It doesn’t, because your claim that the delusion of a soul is the result of not fully realized self awareness isn’t a fact, just another thing you dreamed up. That aside, at what level of awareness does the idea of a soul appear? Petunias? Oysters? Cats? Astronauts?
Boru
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