RE: Random Thoughts
July 6, 2022 at 3:31 pm
(This post was last modified: July 6, 2022 at 4:07 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
I think he's on to something there - but this allegedly pro-life state isn't going to pick up any tabs for raising children when they could simply force those who never wanted those children to foot the bill.
See the recent scotus decision for a demonstration of that. The way we've set this up is the worst of all worlds for the mother..and for the father, and alot of the time, in exactly the same way - because assholes aren't creative. Forced birthing is forced fathering, too. I think we all know how splendidly kids turn out when the only thing that kept daddy around, however much he was around, was the color of law. This isn't just an issue with forced births, either. Sometimes a child is wanted, but if one party can unilaterally decide de jure or de facto that this party is no longer a party to that childs life, why does the state and that same party, then, determine that this other party's wallet is forever indebted to the same? One of my (very much wanted) children is going to Temple. The rest of my (equally desired) children will be lucky if I can afford a community college. The only difference..I've not seen or heard from one of them in 16 years, for 13 years having been the primary caregiver for the others.
It's all garbage. Abusive patriarchy hurts men too, men first, most likely, if only to compel them to help subjugate women, instead. Assholes decided all of this stuff..not just the forced birthing. As a demonstration of that, I refer you to tracking the biggest child support offenders..who, despite having never in their lives seen the amounts of money they owe the state (not the mother..you innocent fools, lol)..still live with that sword hanging over their heads. I'm still personally 50k in debt to cse, exactly as much in debt as I was from the first moment that the child support order was written adjusted for "fees" - and at the rate of penalties, I always will be - even though my former so will never actually see that cash. The amount of money I spend on my four other children, per week, is less than the amount of money I'm obliged to send to a single child I never see, and I have no say in that matter whatsoever, despite legally sharing custody. Not because I'd prefer to..but because that's what's left in the budget.
......and I have far more now than I did when that order was set......child support commitment was the singlular reason that my second wife and our four children were on public assistance for years (thanks american taxpayer!), to say nothing of the negative impacts to earnings and credit from the same which have effected -only- my second wife and our four children. It was actually iffy, for awhile, whether or not I'd be able to earn any money, in order to pay my child support, on account of the actions taken by child support enforcement. To give you a direct example. I drove for a living..and when my living wasn't enough to pay, which is to say from day one of the assessment...my license was suspended. Work that shit out.
All this, ofc, because I actually meet my commitments and I'm not a giant asshole myslef - but what kind of fucked up commitment system is that? Where the people who do right get fucked - and when they don't do right...the kids get fucked?
See the recent scotus decision for a demonstration of that. The way we've set this up is the worst of all worlds for the mother..and for the father, and alot of the time, in exactly the same way - because assholes aren't creative. Forced birthing is forced fathering, too. I think we all know how splendidly kids turn out when the only thing that kept daddy around, however much he was around, was the color of law. This isn't just an issue with forced births, either. Sometimes a child is wanted, but if one party can unilaterally decide de jure or de facto that this party is no longer a party to that childs life, why does the state and that same party, then, determine that this other party's wallet is forever indebted to the same? One of my (very much wanted) children is going to Temple. The rest of my (equally desired) children will be lucky if I can afford a community college. The only difference..I've not seen or heard from one of them in 16 years, for 13 years having been the primary caregiver for the others.
It's all garbage. Abusive patriarchy hurts men too, men first, most likely, if only to compel them to help subjugate women, instead. Assholes decided all of this stuff..not just the forced birthing. As a demonstration of that, I refer you to tracking the biggest child support offenders..who, despite having never in their lives seen the amounts of money they owe the state (not the mother..you innocent fools, lol)..still live with that sword hanging over their heads. I'm still personally 50k in debt to cse, exactly as much in debt as I was from the first moment that the child support order was written adjusted for "fees" - and at the rate of penalties, I always will be - even though my former so will never actually see that cash. The amount of money I spend on my four other children, per week, is less than the amount of money I'm obliged to send to a single child I never see, and I have no say in that matter whatsoever, despite legally sharing custody. Not because I'd prefer to..but because that's what's left in the budget.
......and I have far more now than I did when that order was set......child support commitment was the singlular reason that my second wife and our four children were on public assistance for years (thanks american taxpayer!), to say nothing of the negative impacts to earnings and credit from the same which have effected -only- my second wife and our four children. It was actually iffy, for awhile, whether or not I'd be able to earn any money, in order to pay my child support, on account of the actions taken by child support enforcement. To give you a direct example. I drove for a living..and when my living wasn't enough to pay, which is to say from day one of the assessment...my license was suspended. Work that shit out.
All this, ofc, because I actually meet my commitments and I'm not a giant asshole myslef - but what kind of fucked up commitment system is that? Where the people who do right get fucked - and when they don't do right...the kids get fucked?
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