(July 17, 2022 at 10:03 pm)Belacqua Wrote:(July 17, 2022 at 8:17 pm)TheJefe817 Wrote: if I'm retreading an old argument, I apologize - it's new ground to me.
People do this all the time, and tend not to realize it. That's why I point it out when I see it.
We're more likely to notice when it's values we don't agree with. So for example if American Christians assume that Jesus supports the Second Amendment and hates welfare, that seems like obvious projection. They are attributing their own values to God.
But when we are talking about values and methods that we ourselves like, then it may go unnoticed. We just assume that of course God would share our way of thinking and goals, because ours are the very best ones. How could a good God be different?
Both sides imagine God to be bigger versions of themselves, which may be a function that religion has always played. But it carries no persuasiveness in making a metaphysical argument.
It isn’t projection, because there is nothing there to project onto. Gods are like any other imaginary friend - we create both in a manner that shares our own values and biases.
No child has every dreamed up an imaginary playmate that didn’t have the same fears, hopes, etc as the child. God creation is no different. Gods reflect, not impose, moral codes.
Boru
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