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How to select which supernatural to believe?
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RE: How to select which supernatural to believe?
(July 20, 2022 at 3:29 pm)Angrboda Wrote:
(July 20, 2022 at 2:25 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: It's a matter of fact that atheism in its modern sense wasn't widespread -to put it charitably- in the West before the Renaissance, and it was almost nonexistent in the Islamic world. The East was probably the only portion in the world who explicitly endorsed godless philosophies/religions (Buddhism, Jainism, ..), and even in these religions one finds many figures of gods and supernatural entities. Among ancient greek philosophers, one frequently encounters the name Epicurus as an important thinker in the history of atheism, the problem is that the guy did maintain that the gods existed.

It was awkward indeed to not believe in God before Darwin. Like seriously, the appearance of design is an overwhelming indication of God's existence, and some famous atheists today acknowledge that if there were no theory of evolution, they would believe in God or the first mover (Sean Caroll said that verbatim in his debate with WLC). 
And it doesn't take a genius to figure out that evolution is actually irrelevant to God's existence, so Sean Caroll really should just believe in God, I guess.

So one might ask, what about the sincere atheists today? My personal take is that the corruption of christianity is the key reason for atheism in our era, here's why: people are naturally tilted to explain things teleologically and believe in a creator, but since deism is untenable because it's a hollow idea (you just believe an entity, that you know nothing about, exists), people turn to organized religion, and the leading organized religion happens to be christianity, which has many untenable beliefs like the Trinity/the Resurrection/the original sin, etc. And because of that, people reject belief altogether.

As Jerry Lee Lewis would say, "Whole lotta horseshit goin' on."
Also, we will never know how many atheists there were as there was a clear social stigma against non-belief that would have incentivized people to pretend to be theists. Also, the" appearance" is neither overwhelming it's merely a result of ignorance and bad thinking And trying to say atheism exists because of a corruption of Christianity rather than the total failure of theism to justify itself is absurd.... Hehe
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RE: How to select which supernatural to believe? - by The Architect Of Fate - July 20, 2022 at 4:24 pm
RE: How to select which supernatural to believe? - by Jehanne - October 29, 2022 at 10:06 am
RE: How to select which supernatural to believe? - by Jehanne - November 13, 2022 at 4:40 pm
RE: How to select which supernatural to believe? - by Jehanne - November 13, 2022 at 8:54 pm

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