(July 20, 2022 at 6:48 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: I doubt it would be productive. The simple fact that I've never believed in gods was immediately apprehended by you as a controversial premise, and you tried to double down on that.
I have no problem accepting that you personally never believed. But you asserting that there are no gods, no afterlife, is a different issue. In other words, the two assertions:
"I believe there is no god/no afterlife"
"There is no god/no afterlife"
are very different. One of them is a mundane statement abour personal belief (obviously unjustified here), the other one is a sweeping statement that nobody managed to prove in the history of philosophy.
(July 20, 2022 at 6:48 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Pass. It doesn't follow. I don't need to open any book to know that. Fix the argument so that it follows or stuff it.
I doubt you're taking this seriously, maybe you're confusing this argument with something else. It clearly follows from God being benevolent that he will redress injustice, hence the afterlife. This is probably the simplest argument in theism that I know of, if we can't agree even on that, I doubt we will ever make progress in this kind of discussions.
(July 20, 2022 at 6:48 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: The afterlife won't be that common ground. I think that we persist beyond our deaths in our children, in memory, and in our physical bodies returning back to their constituent elements and becoming parts of other things.
That's more like an afterdeath, not an afterlife. But thank you for reminding us that our bodies will decompose after death, captain obvious.
(July 20, 2022 at 6:48 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: No sex park in the sky
This gratuitous slur we often read about the orthodox conception of the afterlife, shows that atheists have a very distorted view of sex and bodily pleasures. I guess religious people are no longer the ones who view them as filthy.