(July 22, 2022 at 1:59 pm)pocaracas Wrote: Billy, billy, billy.... relax.
You may have heard about the fine tuning argument a few days ago and decided to run over some atheists with it... but we've heard it years ago and, like Mister Agenda said, it's just a thought experiment with a lot of if-clauses for which we have no way of knowing one way or the other, so relax... It's not the end-all argument you think it is.
The truth is no one knows how the Universe came into being. There are ideas, but none is proven and perhaps none will ever be proven, given that repeatability detail we like to have in science and our Universe is just one and it must have started just once.
One thing that could help in that regard are the ideas that posit the existence of other universes, but that too is very likely beyond our ability to conclusively show, so... meh.
Also, the Big Bang is declared to be a singularity and these things are considered to break some or all known laws of Physics, so maybe the Big Bang did break thermodynamics... who knows?
The maths shows that even time and space fizzle into nothingness at the Big Bang... thermodynamics kinda require that 4-dimensional substrate we call space-time to operate, so... again... who knows?
My point of view is that, given that no one knows, let's not decide that an answer that was invented thousands of years ago is the correct one.... it very likely isn't.
Relax, mon ami. Enjoy the forum.
Something about Billy reminds me of someone else I just can't place who.
"For the only way to eternal glory is a life lived in service of our Lord, FSM; Verily it is FSM who is the perfect being the name higher than all names, king of all kings and will bestow upon us all, one day, The great reclaiming" -The Prophet Boiardi-
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Conservative trigger warning.
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