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[Irreligious Atheist]

No, we do know what they are. At least many on the forum claim to know. They are all airplanes and birds. End of story. And did you even read my post? Did you not see the part where I said they are most likely not aliens or unearthly?

Did you not see that my comment was not a reply to your post? And someone saything that they are all airplanes or birds is clearly indicating that they don't know exactly what they are, they're just saying a 'this solar system' explanation is more likely than insterstellar alien visitation.

You don't need to quote someone's post to be responding to them, which you clearly were, and no, people have claimed with certainty, after watching Mick West debunking videos, that the videos coming from the Navy are now proven to be a plane in the one big video that came out, and birds/ a bird in one of the other big videos that came out. Therefore, they have been identified by Mick West and are officially no longer UFOs or USOs.

Either you want service people to be protected and allowed to report their sightings without reprisal, or you think these service people are liabilities and therefore they don't deserve protection and should just be fired or shut up. It's as simple as that.

And the line of reasoning that so many give about us not having evidence of aliens just like we don't have evidence of gods is not a good enough reason to write something off completely. That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence, right? Extraordinary claims can be dismissed without extraordinary evidence, right? Well, not so fast. Although technically I'm agnostic since I can't disprove a god, I dismiss the idea of god not because such an idea lacks evidence. Like I posted before, I don't necessarily think there can even conceivably be evidence of a god, as the concept is a squared circle. That is not my reasoning. My reasoning is simply that god seems to be an illogical concept, and you have the problem of who designed the designer. Something else we don't necessarily have evidence for is the sim theory, but I take that much more seriously because it seems conceivable, and you don't run into the problem of who designed the designer. That's why sim theory is trillions of times more likely than gods, and the same goes for possible alien visitation of earth. It's entirely conceivable that it could happen, in the scenario I presented where over millions of years, self replicating machines cover more and more of the galaxy. Time is of no consequence, and you can't really use that as an argument, even though this seems to be the most popular argument. Time and space. Well, that used to be my argument too when I made fun of this stuff before the Navy leaks and all of that, but time and space is simply not a good argument at all. People like to make the argument that ETs wouldn't waste hundreds of thousands or millions of years coming here just to hide from us, but that line of argument says nothing and is pretty much meaningless as these could just be self replicating machines who don't get bored or think they're wasting their time by going places that take long periods of time to reach. My point is, you can't throw aliens in with gods and ghosts, because the comparison is simply not logical in the least. I don't think it's aliens. But just because it's probably not aliens, that doesn't mean we shouldn't probably still be excited as fuck that something presenting itself like aliens or alien machines might present themselves is up in our skies and under our oceans. Call me silly for getting excited about that, but even if this is just some unknown weather phenomena, it's still cool as hell that the government released a UFO report saying that we likely are going to need new science to explain what is happening here. Learning more about our universe is just exciting to me, regardless of what this phenomena actually is. Some others may not be excited by developments in science and our understanding of the world around us, but I am. Of course, many scientists are going to refuse to touch this subject for the time being because they're worried about how the stigma will impact their careers, and I can't blame them.