RE: The Death Penalty - are you for or against it and why?
December 1, 2011 at 9:53 am
(This post was last modified: December 1, 2011 at 10:03 am by reverendjeremiah.)
(December 1, 2011 at 9:38 am)Shell B Wrote: I still don't get it. Hating or dehumanizing serial killers is not racist; it's a clear defense mechanism and a completely forgivable one. There is no comparison with the Nazis here. To suggest such is ridiculous. The fact that you are defending the right of a serial killer to be called by a different pronoun, of all miniscule things, is really strange to me. Instead of honing in on the defense of their victims and saying, "Hey, I get what you hate them so much. They're still human, but I get it." you are acting as if calling a serial killer it is somehow more despicable than being a serial killer. I'm not trying to argue here. I just genuinely have no fucking clue where you are coming from.
Just to clarify, calling someone "it" isn't precisely the same as saying that they are not of the same species. Also, there is no "at least" about the human trash thing. You are implying that it is not okay to speak ill of serial killers. For fuck's sake, are we to have no defense whatsoever, either psychologically or legally against these sick bastards? Is it not PC to despise serial murderers who would gut you without giving a fuck what you thought of them?
So dehumanizing humans isnt really THAT much dehumanizing to them?
And, to be honest and calm and patient, the Nazi's very much considered the Jews to be murderers, deceivers, destroyers of nations, and the ultimate "christ killers"...so yes, I am not trying to call you a Nazi...I am saying the Nazi's considered Jews to be "its" just as well.
As far as psychological defense... does that mean i get to dehumanize everyone opposed to me? Or JUST serial killers and rapists? Why not drug users, pot heads, bums, adulterers, and creationists?
Is it okay if I call them "it" as well.
What exactly are the parameters of the difference between "him" and "it"?
Quote:You are implying that it is not okay to speak ill of serial killers.
No, not really. I am merely concerned of the dehumanization factor. I see lees problem in calling them "human trash" as opposed to "it". Calling them "it" opens a can of worms that has sometimes been the cause of mass warfare, genocides, etc..
If that "it" who raped your mother happened to be a different color than you, then how many steps does it take before EVERYONE of that same color becomes an "it", or even "human trash".
