(December 1, 2011 at 9:53 am)reverendjeremiah Wrote: So dehumanizing humans isnt really THAT much dehumanizing to them?
The point is that I do not see it as dehumanizing. Calling a person "it" is not necessarily dehumanizing. The fact of the matter is, you would have to actually consider a person not a human to dehumanize them. You have to take away their human traits or ignore their human traits. You're making a mountain out of a molehill.
Quote:And, to be honest and calm and patient, the Nazi's very much considered the Jews to be murderers, deceivers, destroyers of nations, and the ultimate "christ killers"...so yes, I am not trying to call you a Nazi...I am saying the Nazi's considered Jews to be "its" just as well.
No, they didn't. Just because you spout propaganda to make someone hate another race doesn't mean you actually believe it. Furthermore, even if every Nazi believed the lies, it was the lie that dehumanized them, not the truth. Serial killers are murderers. Therein lies the difference, rev.
Quote:As far as psychological defense... does that mean i get to dehumanize everyone opposed to me? Or JUST serial killers and rapists? Why not drug users, pot heads, bums, adulterers, and creationists?
Do you need to defend yourself psychologically from everyone who opposes you? Honestly, and I say this sincerely, without malice, you do seem to go off rather easily. The path you are taking with your "logic" can lead all over the place. The same argument could be used for "Oh, do I get to stab ONLY serial killers in my home or anyone I don't want there?" "Do I get to block my face from being punched ONLY from a serial killer or anyone who is trying to punch me?" It's a strange idea that you should now be PC about your self preservation methods. If you can do it to one, you can do it to all? I mean, really. I dislike serial killers. I don't dislike everyone who opposes me as a result.
Quote:Is it okay if I call them "it" as well.
Yes, because I'm not the word police, as long as you spell it right.
Quote:What exactly are the parameters of the difference between "him" and "it"?
They are the same thing, really. One simply connotes sex.
Quote:No, not really. I am merely concerned of the dehumanization factor. I see lees problem in calling them "human trash" as opposed to "it". Calling them "it" opens a can of worms that has sometimes been the cause of mass warfare, genocides, etc..
Bah. Slippery slope. Epi is not going to commit genocide because he doesn't hold hands with serial killers.
Quote:If that "it" who raped your mother happened to be a different color than you, then how many steps does it take before EVERYONE of that same color becomes an "it", or even "human trash".
Another slippery slope.
