(September 26, 2022 at 12:20 am)AFTT47 Wrote:(September 25, 2022 at 12:35 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: That would be conceit. Pride, objectively, is self-respect and the healthy recognition of one's worth. Pride is a virtue when practiced rationally, but, like other virtues, it can become a vice when carried to excess. Thus pride can become conceit.
Looked at from a non-Christian, utilitarian way, I see it as a mixed bag. I think it is good and useful to take pride in one's accomplishments. But there is so much truth in the Socrates view that the only wisdom is knowing that you know nothing. Regardless of what you have accomplished, there is so much you don't[ know, so many ways you are inferior. It's not pessimistic. It just grounds you in reality.
Your contributions are valuable but you should stay aware that there is a literal infinity of room left into which you may grow.
I have an impression that you didn't read the 2nd part of the post where I say that pride is a virtue when practiced rationally, but that it can become a vice when carried to excess. Just like other Gregory's alleged sins.
Thus anger can become rage; envy can become jealousy; gluttony and greed can become what those words connote today; pride can become conceit; lust can become self-gratification at the expense of another; and sloth can become depraved indifference.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
